Also "in the West" people in countries like Canada, Australia or most European countries don't like to be lumped together with the US anyway. So why MAGA people care?
Irish people, German people, Scandivian people: yeah, sure, of course they have culture.
But "white" is not a culture, it's a social construct that exists primarily for exclusion. CF: people who are now, and previously weren't, considered white (Poles, Italians, some Jews, etc).
If whiteness exists only to delineate the in groups/out groups, the only "culture" of whiteness is that of protecting the power of those deemed to be "white".
So, yeah, I think "maintaining the culture of white people" inherently requires a concept of white supremacy.
Keep in mind, you replied to a comment that claimed that "the West" is used as another name for "White" and that's precisely how it's used in those circles.
So, to paraphrase, you deny that there's Western culture and it's part of European Culture. That is, you deny that there are cultural threads common for most of Europe and more so for Western Europe. I hope, I've said enough to convince you that you're wrong.
> But "white" is not a culture, it's a social construct that exists primarily for exclusion.
And? Using your logic, one can say that "German is not a culture, it's a social construct that exists primarily for exclusion" - if you were consistent, you'd also question the right of Germans to have a culture given that Bavaria, Saxony, etc do have cultural differences. The hair-splitting can go even further but the point should already be clear.
> So, yeah, I think "maintaining the culture of white people" inherently requires a concept of white supremacy.
So you claim that "maintaining the culture of Chinese people" inherently requires a concept of Chinese supremacy? Replace Chinese with German, Saxon, whatever... it doesn't compute.
Culture can be used as an excuse for supremacy and there are many other excuses too but fighting excuses instead of fighting supremacy can only help the supremacists.
While I don't think my culture needs to be preserved nor do I care about being a "racial minority" (I live in a neighborhood where the majority of the people who live here are "non-white" - and, no, I didn't gentrify, it's actually just a very young neighborhood), I do want to be able to share my culture and traditions with other people. That's the whole basis of culture... sharing it with others.
And there's another thing. People who don't look like me call me "white people". What should they be calling me instead?
I think it would be a lot easier to shut white supremacists down if we had competent answers to these questions instead of thought terminating cliches like "white people don't have culture".
This is a rude statement to claim as you are denying the existence of a group of people. Just because a group can consist of other subgroups that does not mean a larger group does not exist.
>it's a social construct that exists primarily for exclusion.
Everything can be a social construct if you want to try and frame it as one and while the actual definition may be complex it is not any more complex than other groups of people like Chinese which also consist of subgroups which people may or may not consider the same Chinese as one another. To say that the term of white is used primarily for exclusion that is wrong and I think more reflects the kind of content you consume.
The German state is linked more to religions but rather trajectory it is becoming more secular. My example about Texas shows the different direction and shows how Germany is changing into a different direction then what MAGA people want.
The only thing that modern evangelical churches have in common is they read the same bible and believe Christ was resurrected, but their theology is different, their practices are different, there is no formal clergy or clerical education/scholarship, and their values typically invert from what every other Christian denomination teaches. And there are more cults than you can possibly imagine.
This is not “MAGA Americans” characterization. It is the outcome of 2000+ years of history culminating in the U.S. being primarily populated by European peoples and the post WWII world order, with highlights including the Marshall Plan and NATO.
The Westphalian system of armed states had its legs chopped out from under it after 1945, but it's taking a while for a new way to materialize.
This is one of the reasons why the Absolute Worst Thing is a nuclear-armed state with uncertain borders. Look around the world and you'll see that the "trouble spots" we spend a lot of time looking at in the news, are those places where nuke powers get to feeling itchy and twitchy about where exactly their countries end.