90 pointsby dralley7 hours ago13 comments
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  • scihuber5 hours ago
    More scary articles I think:

    https://theins.press/en/inv/290235 - Lost in translation: How Russia’s new elite hit squad was compromised by an idiotic lapse in tradecraft https://theins.press/en/inv/287837 - The mob’s humanitarian backdoor: Ramzan Kadyrov’s mafia connections reach deep into German critical infrastructure

  • hax0ron34 hours ago
    I always wonder about Navalny - why did he go back to Russia? Did he really believe that he could do some kind of Nelson Mandela thing? Or that the Russian people would flock to his cause? I believe that the man was an idealist, I don't think you expose yourself to that much danger without being an idealist at least on some level or thinking that the possible personal rewards make the danger worth it, and I don't get the sense from Navalny that he was after personal rewards primarily. But with his experience in Russian politics, I feel like he should have known that the chance that his return to Russia would bring about any serious political change was extremely small. Not returning to Russia would have hurt his chances of causing political change as well, since that would have made him seem like just an agent of the Western powers. But returning to Russia at the cost of his life also did not accomplish political change.
    • halJordan3 hours ago
      I think you just have to accept that he was built different from someone like you. I think it's kind of a form of disrespect to say "why would someone do that?" We know exactly why he did it, he had a level of passion you don't. It's okay for you to not be passionate about anything on the level of giving up your life, but you shouldn't act like that doesn't exist or is an odd weird thing you're could never understand
      • hax0ron326 minutes ago
        I know it exists. I'm asking why he went on an extremely dangerous mission that had very little chance of success instead of using his energy on something that would have been more likely to achieve success, or on something that would have been equally unlikely to achieve success but at least would not have been extremely dangerous.
      • thatsamejew23 hours ago
        You are absolutely ignorant both of him and his circle, and then his supporters. Him and his circle were and are collaborating with the enemies of the Russian people (not the state, the people itself), many of them because of a deep hatred they have towards this people.

        Most of their supporters are ignorant (though they themselves do not think so), frustrated, and violent young people, which your country hopes to use as one of the ingredients to start a civil war inside Russia.

        So, brushing away your propaganda about "idealists" and like, this is more or less the bare truth (which you will probably call "Russian ptopaganda", ignoring history, evidence, and common sense).

    • robbiewxyzan hour ago
      I've wondered the same. A look at his contemporary media quotes gives maybe a hint. From Navalny: "It is difficult for me to understand exactly what is going on in [Putin's] mind. [...] 20 years of power would spoil anyone and make them crazy. He thinks he can do whatever he wants."

      If this quote is genuine, as opposed to wistful, it suggests Navalny's evaluation of Russia was that Putin couldn't, in fact, do whatever he wanted there. As best I can tell, such an evaluation would have been pretty damn close to completely inaccurate.

      The choice to return to Russia as a catastrophically-failed gamble based on that premise is what makes the most sense to me.

    • thatsamejew23 hours ago
      He was sure that his western puppeteers would make it impossible to treat him the way you treat your opponents. And he was an uscrupulous adventurer, not an "idealist". 2+2=4, here is your "mystery" solved.
      • hax0ron32 hours ago
        If he was an unscrupulous adventurer who was sure that his Western support would prevent him from being killed, then that leads to two questions:

        1. Why exactly would he have been so sure that his Western support would prevent him from being killed? The Russian elite is not exactly made up of people who are squeamish about killing, and the risk to the elite from killing him would have been small.

        2. Why not just stay in the West and do the unscrupulous adventuring from there? Sure, maybe the Western backers would not have quite as much use for you that way, but you'd still have a lot of influence and a cushy life.

        • thatsamejew2an hour ago
          Why he was sure? Since Putin and his circle, contrary to what your propaganda tries to picture, are acting rationally based on the information they have (which may be outdated or incorrect), just as your country, though the means they have are very much inferior to yours. Apparently at some point the perceived risk from Navalny outweighed potential punitive western measures.

          Why not just "stay in the west"? And why hadn't Arafat stayed in Tunis and went to the west bank to be then poisoned there by the Mossad? (As the late Uri Avneri claimed)

          Closer to the Russian reality, why hadn't Lenin stayed in Switzerland? And what was the end of prince Kurbskiy who tried to oppose Ivan "the terrible" from Poland?

          • hax0ron340 minutes ago
            I'm not claiming that Putin is acting irrationally, at least not any more irrationally than other leaders - after all, politicians are still human.

            My question is why Navalny would have believed that it would not be rational for Putin to kill him.

            Lenin entered Russia at a more advantageous moment than Navalny did. The February Revolution had already happened. The government was new. Navalny, in contrast, entered a Russia in which the government was stable and had been around for a long time.

            • thatsamejew225 minutes ago
              He returned to Russia, as I just checked, in January 2021. The sanctions were already working, rouble was devaluating, the country was perceived to bow to western pressure, Ukraine was steadily preparing to enter Donbass and eventually take Crimea (yes, I know your media did not tell you that, but this was the end goal they had in mind, with western support of course). What is so stable about this situation?
  • alephnerd6 hours ago
    First there was Nemtsov, then there was Navlany. Wonder who's next.

    Funny thing is, if 1999 went differently Lukashenka actually had a shot at being in the Kremlin today.

  • varispeed5 hours ago
    Imagine if all Russians put their energy into making world a better place, instead of killing their neighbours, raping, stealing and corrupting. Sad.
    • drdaeman4 hours ago
      s/Russians/humans/. Absolutely nothing special about Russians here.
      • tim33317 minutes ago
        The killing the neighbours thing seems a bit more prevalent there than other developed countries.
    • andrewinardeer3 hours ago
      I can play this game too.

      Imagine if all Americans put their energy into making world a better place, instead of killing their neighbours, raping, stealing and corrupting. Sad.

    • lifestyleguru5 hours ago
      The west is secretly in love with this malevolence, that's why.
      • Svoka5 hours ago
        Yup, they call it 'mysterious russian soul', while it just a blatant disregard to human life
    • nullorempty4 hours ago
      hm, not much would change. - we'd still see palestine destroyed - iran bombed - iraq bombed - lybia bombed - afganistan bombed - lebanon bombed

      Imagine if all countries would put their energy into building peace and prosperity. That would make a difference.

      • gljiva3 hours ago
        Actually, a lot would change. Each one of the Ukrainian lives destroyed is a whole life destroyed. A damaged car is a setback for a family. There are whole cities and villages razed in Ukraine, fields polluted or rigged with explosives. Countless lives lost; each person's story and potential ended by some Russian's "command-following" drone or missile strike.

        No, Russia isn't the only one, but _is_ a cause of a lot of suffering and resources wasted.

        • thatsamejew2an hour ago
          Ukrainian war is totally western creation. There was no Russian interest to start the war, actually the interest was NOT to start a war. You just made it close to impossible not to.

          The rest is (mainly) lies you continue telling the people living in Ukraine, encouraging the Ukranian nationalists just as the germans did in WWII.

          • gljiva29 minutes ago
            If Russia didn't want a war there wouldn't be one. I didn't make anything.

            As someone living in a country with a hostile neighbour, I'm glad the governments currently continue to coexist, even if mine could get an economic advantage or "a safety buffer" by invading the other. NATO's peaceful expansion towards east is not just, but it isn't a sufficient cause of war either, far from it.

            • nullorempty3 minutes ago
              >NATO's Peaceful expansion towards east

              Thanks, that gave me a chuckle.

              Why were they expanding? Why did they have biolabs in Ukraine? Why did B. Johnson halted peace talks? Why did Merkel say Minsk agreements were only meant to buy Ukraine time to arm itself? Arm for what?

              Things are more complicated, I don't think either country had a choice.

        • nullorempty2 hours ago
          A lot would change for a few, not for the 8b people on this planet.
          • gljiva38 minutes ago
            I am considering the absolute impact on those affected, which is the most relevant for this discussion. Millions are not "a few". And it's absolutely unnecessary, the aggressor has always been in the position to pull back and leave (or not attack at all). Everyone but _a few_ war profiteers suffers from war, because it requires hours of work (weapons) diverted towards destroying other hours of work (cars, houses, infrastructure), occupying workers' time by ordering them to kill future workers, all of which could go towards increasing production instead of decreasing it, which does affect global markets and thus people globally.
            • nullorempty31 minutes ago
              Both sides had the option to de-escalate. All Ukraine needed to do is to implement Minks agreements instead of killing ppl of donbass.
      • Svoka4 hours ago
        ah, here comes whataboutism. And you are correct. It would be great if russia didn't destroy Afghanistan and Syria.

        Also, equating conflicts is a very shallow and inadequate manipulation tool. For example, russians razed dozens of cities in Ukraine, establish torture and rape chambers, use rape, torture, execution of POW as policy today.

        "all wars are bad" doesn't mean that whatever russia does is way worse.

        • nullorempty4 hours ago
          Just pointing out that nothing would change. And you are obviously fixated on Russia. May be broaden your perspective.
          • Svoka4 hours ago
            only things you point out are russian propaganda points.
            • nullorempty4 hours ago
              that you need to broaden your perspective? Russian propaganda said that about you?
              • Svoka2 hours ago
                How listening to same disingenuous false propaganda points would broaden anyone perspective? False equivalency between conflicts remain false
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      • mindslight4 hours ago
        Obviously something a bit more on the hyperbolic sensationalist side, but closer to the truth than the simplistic ignore-your-own-eyes contrarianism peddled by Russian propaganda. FWIW your comment is the type that makes me go back and upvote GP.
      • stephbook5 hours ago
        Please share it with us.
    • Mikhail_Edoshin5 hours ago
      Or maybe Westerners stop lying that much.
    • Svoka5 hours ago
      That is a quintessential part of russia through the history of that country. Conquer, oppress, loot. Medieval imperialism brought to modern age.
  • PearlRiver2 hours ago
    Sport fan clowns always say you have to separate politics from the Olympics. Well guess what my own country is sponsoring athletes because the whole fucking show is just a way for countries to show off. Not sure what we are showing off to be honest- although I did clap for the nice Somali ex refugee lady who is now a professional athlete.
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  • RomanPushkin5 hours ago
    How it is hacker news now?
    • bigyabai5 hours ago
      Christo does excellent investigative journalism, his curiosity is well aligned with many of the people on this site.
  • secondary_op5 hours ago
    1. How stupid do you have to be to believe that a three-letter agency from any country isn't capable of delivering a lethal dose of poison to eliminate its target?

    2. To this day, it remains unclear who actually slightly poisoned Navalny and to what end.

    3. As of last week, we have an on-camera confession [2] from Leonid Volkov of Navalny's FBK [1], in which he states that it is very disappointing that USAID funding is no longer available. The videos are in Russian, but you should at least care and be capable of translating them with AI. If not, don't even bother raising your propagandized, brainwashed takes.

    I have nothing to say about the OP-linked site other than that it is a trashcan of lies.

    [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonid_Volkov_(politician) [2] https://www.jpg.wtf/c54omx.mp4

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    • faangguyindia4 hours ago
      You don't need 3 letter agencies.

      Billionaires and Tech Executives from CA do it all time too.

      Heck one even threatened to eliminate me because I was working on competing ad tech low latency system. I was much younger back then completely shook.

  • gavinray5 hours ago
    I don't condone doping in tested sports, but I think there needs to be recognition that preventing athletes from modifying their biochemistry turns most sports into a genetic lottery showcase.

    Here is what I mean:

    Suppose that two men are born, with identical brains, but very different bodies. Both of them have a single desire: to be the fastest sprinter in the world.

    Man A)

    - Predominantly fast-twitch muscle fiber composition

    - Possesses ACTN3 RX genotype [0]

    - Testosterone, Growth Hormone, IGF-1 levels at the very upper end of reference range

    Man B)

    - Predominantly slow-twitch muscle fiber composition

    - Possesses ACTN3 XX genotype

    - Clinically deficient values of Testosterone, Growth Hormone, IGF-1. Prone to musculoskeletal injuries, possibly connective tissue disorders.

    If these two men live an identical life, and put the same amount of effort into training, the second man still has no hope of making it to the Olympics.

    Even doping would only be able to correct for hormonal deficiencies, not the genome-level disadvantages for power performance compared to the other athlete.

    A truly "fair" sport would pit competitors against each other who had near-identical genetic and physical traits.

    The Olympics is just watching the people who won genetic lotteries.

    [0]: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11014841/

    • dmurray5 hours ago
      > A truly "fair" sport would pit competitors against each other who had near-identical genetic and physical traits.

      That's what the Olympics is. The men's 100m final pits against each other the fastest 8 men who are in their physical prime, full of fast twitch muscles, with West African descent. With some minor noise.

      If you want to watch people from other genotype buckets run 10-50% slower, you can watch the women's event or the Paralympics or, like, the All-Vietnam U-16 event. It seems churlish to complain that not every bucket is on TV at a convenient time for you.

    • timnetworks5 hours ago
      Olympics are literally a showcase of the genetic lottery. We can have Testtube Olympics alongside Special Olympics if there is sufficient interest.
      • hananova4 hours ago
        No, the olympics are a doping competition, and a meta-competition of “who is better at not getting detected.”

        In general, the statement “if they got a medal, they cheated” is true so much of the time that it becomes a sensible default assumption. And it sucks for the few that didn’t cheat.

      • MengerSponge5 hours ago
        1988 All-Drug Olympics (SNL Weekend Update sketch)

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAdG-iTilWU

    • mirekrusin5 hours ago
      It’s best of competition, not everybody at the same time on finish line equity gathering.
    • gherkinnn5 hours ago
      So the olympic games do pit near-identical competitors against each other.

      > The Olympics is just watching the people who won genetic lotteries.

      So? The olympic games should be the pinnacle of human performance (fed by their nation's interests). Of course it is lotteries all the way from the genetics, to what country you're born in, right to the national lottery putting money in to sports.

      Your alternatives are either a proliferation of categories or random people assembling every four years to roll dice to determine the winner. Neither is exciting.

    • nradov4 hours ago
      There's no inherent reason that the second man couldn't make it to the Olympics in the air pistol event.
    • mmooss3 hours ago
      > preventing athletes from modifying their biochemistry turns most sports into a genetic lottery showcase.

      Genetics are necessary to a point, and are not at all sufficient.

      Any follower of a sport knows of athletes with incredible genetic blessings who accomplish little or nothing because they lack the hard work, discipline, focus, skill, emotional management, teamwork, etc. to succeed. And that sample omits far more athletes whose non-genetic limitations caused them to drop out or fail out before making it to the level where public is aware of them.

      At the same time, the GOATs (greatest of all time) in many sports were not particularly blessed genetically, relative to other top atheletes:

      * Football / soccer: Lionel Messi: 5'7", ~160 lbs., and had growth hormone deficiency [0], and is small, and not particularly fast or strong. "Messi’s “software” is what often gives him a head-start on those who physically should have the better of him." If you're interested, this article describes it in some detail: [1]

      * American football: Tom Brady was notoriously unathletic, setting records for poor performance in the NFL's scouting 'combine' where draft prospects are compared in standardized tests. Also didn't have a strong throwing arm.

      * Basketball is an exception: Michael Jordan was supremely athletic.

      * Baseball: Babe Ruth was overweight, not known to be particularly fast or athletic, and played a position for relatively poor athletes who could hit: right field (gets the fewest plays, usually doesn't require more than running to a spot and throwing).

      * Hockey: Wayne Gretzky was relatively small, not very fast, didn't have a hard shot.

      * Tennis? Boxing? Cricket? Rugby?

      These people are far more athletic than ordinary people, of course; I'm comparing them to other professionals in their sports.

      [0] Wikipedia

      [1] https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/4008225/2022/12/16/lionel-m...

    • bigyabai5 hours ago
      Most sports are a genetic lottery showcase regardless of how many drugs you take.
    • Rekindle80905 hours ago
      What's the point of this post? You're missing the forest for the trees. It's like saying racing is driver against driver, not driver and car against driver and car. Motivation has NEVER made up for physical fitness, never will, and never should. The olympics are about the human body first.
      • gavinray5 hours ago

          > What's the point of this post?
        
        I don't see the Olympics as a particularly "fair" sport in the first place, in the sense of "fair" meaning "without favoritism" because physical capability is a vast spectrum.
    • speedgoose5 hours ago
      Yeah so athletes with more money and better access to doping products win instead.

      Hard pass.

      • kelipso5 hours ago
        Also will encourage athletes to give themselves long term health issues for short term performance gains.
        • gavinray5 hours ago
          I'm of the "your body, your choice" mind

          To me the decision to take PED's doesn't feel different than being an alcoholic or having an abortion.

          I wouldn't recommend anyone become an alcoholic, but it's their life and people ought to have the freedom of choice.

          • speedgoose5 hours ago
            I’m not sure kids in competitive sports will be able to make an informed decision without any pressure.
          • nradov3 hours ago
            Sure, adults should be able to take PEDs if they want to. But there's no reason to allow doping cheaters to enter sanctioned competitive events. It's no different from forcing all competitors to follow equipment rules. Like for the discus throw everyone has to use the same weight. Or for bike racing you can't install a motor.
          • mindslight5 hours ago
            Would you think it a poor dynamic if a company offered to pay people a good salary simply to be heavy sustained drinkers, but only for some limited amount of time? I'd say the problem is that the Moloch attractor tends to undermine this lofty ideal of "freedom of choice".
      • drdaeman5 hours ago
        At least that produces tangible value for the rest of us this way.

        Current idea of sports is that athletes wreck themselves for mere performance value (and money to the people who set it up, with a bit trickling down to athletes for enabling it all). As far as I understand, nothing they directly do is otherwise reusable to anyone else.

        I’d rather watch a live commercial for human enhancement industries. At least that’s something that eventually becomes available to everyone.