36 pointsby rolph5 hours ago18 comments
  • justinator5 hours ago
    Humorous or not, there was a video of a dog trainer that trained his (you guess it: German Shepherd) in German commands, partly so that when he worked with client's dogs, he could use English, and his German-speaking dog who would be in close proximity (useful for reactive training) wouldn't compete with the client's dog.
    • schoen5 hours ago
      Reginald Foster, a great Latin expert whom I once got to study with, emphasized that Latin isn't inherently difficult as a spoken language, as evidenced by the fact that it used to be lots of people's native language and used for all kinds of ordinary daily purposes.

      One of his slogans for this was "in Roma antiqua, etiam canes Latine locuti sunt" ('in ancient Rome, even the dogs spoke Latin').

      • jjtheblunt4 hours ago
        "latine" with an e on the end is ablative, first declension?
        • amelung4 hours ago
          This ‑e is an adverb ending. The belonging adjective is «latinus» ‹Latin›.
          • jjtheblunt3 hours ago
            that makes more sense to me, because i asked thinking it was a typo on ablative with implicit lingua
    • jancsika4 hours ago
      The evil of global mutable state strikes again.

      This is why I only train my dogs in a pure functional language.

      • yencabulatoran hour ago
        It's merely the software architectural mistake of only constructing a broadcast channel.

        Security by obscurity is fundamentally weak, this use wastes bandwidth, and can be destroyed by statistical analysis where the other dogs learn German.

    • badc0ffee4 hours ago
      I think if I said sitz to my English-trained dog, she would sit.
      • Esophagus44 hours ago
        Maybe your dog has been taking German classes while you’re at work…
    • sudb4 hours ago
      I think this is a great idea in general - security through obfuscation, kinda.
    • BoredPositron4 hours ago
      We do it with our herding dogs so you can give the different dogs different commands.
      • tomcam3 hours ago
        Now I’m dying to know what kind of herding you do that requires this separation of powers
  • advisedwang3 hours ago
    I'm told (but have no direct knowledge) that many police dogs in the US are trained to german commands. This is because previously (and in some cases still) police departments used dogs trained in Germany and they have continued so that there is continuity of commands (ie you don't have to know which dogs speaks which language).
    • edwhitesell3 hours ago
      Sometimes it's Dutch instead, but that's true.

      Many agencies, especially those new to having K-9 or small departments that may not be able to spend time dedicated to training from puppies, get dogs from Europe that are partially or fully trained. The lineage of the working dog breeds is much better in Europe because many breeds have bloodlines that haven't been bred for generations to be pets (like here in the US).

      It's also why agencies pay so much for the dogs. Last I heard (I used to be more involved volunteering with my local PD) a fully trained dog was around $25k, USD, a partially trained was something like $8k - $10. It sounds like a lot until you realize a fully trained dog is 18—24 months old when acquired and has been training every day during that time.

    • whalesalad3 hours ago
      Yes, this is true. Many personal protection dogs as well.
  • dole4 hours ago
    Used in Schutzhund, German dog sport/training: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schutzhund
    • layman513 hours ago
      Also, it seems like some police dogs in the USA that were probably trained in Germany use these German dog commands too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlntC-WAbd0
      • rolph3 hours ago
        you have eluted, the hidden point.

        informed is stronger than ignorant.

        stay safe.

    • whalesalad4 hours ago
      I have one of these lol (a dog with competitive parents). Get a load of our breeder's website, its a trip back in time. https://www.glaurungkennel.com/

      Our little buddy is the silver collar here, https://www.glaurungkennel.com/LitterK.html

      • dole4 hours ago
        Definitely a trip back in time, I did a website almost exactly the same for Bernese mountain dogs except without the flame background.
        • tomcam3 hours ago
          But with the batwings I hope
          • dole3 hours ago
            Nah, those were a classy touch. IIRC it was some Thomas Kinkade-lookin' bullshit.
            • whalesalad35 minutes ago
              ah man I can totally picture that. very on brand for a big ass BMD living in like maine or vermont
      • tomcam3 hours ago
        I totally want a batwinged attack dog now
  • frankus4 hours ago
    I grew up speaking German and still use "zu!" with my (otherwise English-trained) dogs for "get out of the way!".
  • daft_pink5 hours ago
    Do they have other languages? My dog is an immigrant and it would be nice to use his native language.
    • NoiseBert694 hours ago
      Teach him Rust

      Oh wait, wrong Thread!

      • GuB-424 hours ago
        My dog doesn't know Rust, but he is fluent in Ruff!
  • rambambram4 hours ago
    Haha nice one. As a kid I had these friends in the neighborhood (Netherlands) whose dad trained Malinois shepherds and sold them worldwide to security services and police units.

    In my city are four day marches in the summer where also international military participate. Before dawn, all these soldiers walk from the forest - where they sleep - to the starting point. It was customary for us as kids to wave to the soldiers and wish them good luck and ask for some souvenirs/stickers.

    One day my friends had their dog with them and we learned the command 'luid' (loud in English, laut im Deutsch) so the dog would bark. Early in the morning, exhausted soldiers that did not even had their morning coffee, very quiet outside, and then the dog would bark them to shock with our little whispers of 'luid'. Good times.

  • torginus3 hours ago
    As someone who speaks German, it feels puzzling to me why I would teach my dog German commands (even though I have a GSD), these are just the regular words/phrases for things but in a different language.
    • EdwardDiegoan hour ago
      It's better with dogs to use commands that sound harder for hard commands - stop, down, wait, etc. Which German's love of crisply pronounced consonants tends to lend itself to.
    • rolph3 hours ago
      its a weak authentication. if you use a dog for work/husbandry, law military, it does two things.

      1] regionally unfamiliar language, dog will obey your commands, but not commands of regional language.

      2] parrallel handling, different dogs trained in different languages dont step on each others task,in response to the same cue command.

      e.g. left dog, sprech im ze deutsch - right dog, govorite po russki

      • cjbenedikt3 hours ago
        I hope your Russian is better than your German...;-p
        • rolph3 hours ago
          i spoke both conversationally with my grandfather before he passed, he was russian/german i spoke english as native language, but later began learning a few others.

          i get them mixed up when cold, but if speaking for a while i can get in a zone.

          my spelling is atrocious i think i see where you complain:

          Sprechen Sie Deutsch %:P

  • codethief4 hours ago
    > 2. Drop it / Let go — Aus. In German, aus is a preposition meaning “out of.”

    It also means "off" and – in sports – "offside", which I think is much closer to what "aus" means in this context.

    • stephbook3 hours ago
      "Es ist aus" can also be translated as "It is over" (a game)

      The meaning in dog schools is "Spit it out", but given aus's versatility within human language, it's often used as a general "stop" command. As in "aus", stop playing.

    • croes4 hours ago
      "Aus" means the dog should let go what’s in his mouth.

      It means something like "Spuck es aus", "Spit it out"

    • grasbergerm4 hours ago
      "Aus" in a sports context means out.
    • kuerbel4 hours ago
      Not really, offside is Abseits.

      In this case Aus means out like in spit it out or out with it, "raus damit".

  • kazinator4 hours ago
    These would be fun for voice control in a video game.

    Which would be called Castle Woofenstein.

  • nyjah4 hours ago
    Platz. That’s the one German command I give to my shepherd.

    I trained her over 11 years ago using Michael Ellis videos and picked it up there. If she was younger I’d incorporate some more of these.

  • lukan4 hours ago
    "Sitz" and "platz" sound too similar, so to make it easier, some german people I know use a mixture of german and english.

    "Sitz!" for sit

    "Down!" for down.

  • weinzierl4 hours ago
    The most important one is missing:

    Fass!

    You better know what it means when a dog owner points at you and says "Fass!".

    There is a hilarious episode by German comedian Gerhard Polt about this word where he plays the owner of a Kampfhund (the genuine grandson of the great-uncle of the dog of Adolf Hitler) who goofs around alternating between "Fass!" and "Nicht Fass!" not realizing that the dog is not capable of distinguishing between the two.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=I5sFagE-zqw

    (In German, obviously - the Bavarian kind)

  • wvbdmp4 hours ago
    The list goes to 48 (!), in case you’re fooled by the self-promo and “PS” after number 20.
  • mrjoe33325 hours ago
    I've never seen a GSD actually obey the drop/aus command without you having something to trade for
    • throwway1203853 hours ago
      The GSDs I grew up with would do it pretty immediately, but I had to occasionally praise them when they did it so they wouldn't lose the habit. They're pretty damn smart and will figure out some pretty complex behaviors just from positive reinforcement. I once taught a GSD in one session to sit patiently 10 feet away from the vehicle gate at my childhood home when I arrived home by stopping the truck every time started walking forward. By the 3rd or 4th time of my inching forward he had figured out that the only way to get me to pull in and get out of the truck was to sit patiently and I never had to train him on it again.
    • torginus3 hours ago
      I've never even taught it to my dog, as she just drops toys at my feet after fetching them. She just enjoys the though of the stick being thrown too much to waste time on holding on to it.
      • 9dev3 hours ago
        What do you do when she picks up some food on the street? There are people who place meat interlaced with poison where I live; so having a surefire way to make mine spit out whatever he’s got in his mouth is essential
        • torginus3 hours ago
          Dunno, I just yell at her, and she drops it and looks at me :) I haven't heard about poison meat, but she sure loves to find and eat the most disgusting stuff, up to, and including, poop.
    • system24 hours ago
      Crappy owners. The GSD I have is like a cyborg, yet very friendly. WFH help the training. Most owners do not train their dogs and the alpha in GSDs come out easily.
    • whalesalad4 hours ago
      This tool is incredibly effective. ive zapped myself with it to test. feels like a very very strong static shock. Our dog Solo has been zapped only a handful of times. When he wears the collar now we don't even really turn it on or use it - just knowing it exists is enough for him to drop his frisbee/ball/etc. https://www.ecollar.com/product/ez-900-easy-educator-1-2-mil...
      • mrjoe3332an hour ago
        Some of them will know you're doing it and get pissed off
  • SirFatty4 hours ago
    TIL: Phooey is actually a german word, Pfui.
  • 867-53093 hours ago
    *Dog Commands in German
  • vunderba4 hours ago
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  • system24 hours ago
    I have an ultra-trained GSD, and I find German commands cringe and pretentious.