33 pointsby JumpCrisscross4 hours ago3 comments
  • dangusan hour ago
    Iran is going to get so many of their demands met by the oil-addicted Western world.

    They might even get all sanctions removed.

    I’m not even sure Iran realized they had this much leverage before they were forced to use it.

  • willio582 hours ago
    I feel like getting obsessed about the strategic failure of this is missing the forest for the trees.

    Why did the U.S. assassinate the leader of a country across the planet in the first place? Because Benjamin Netanyahu wanted us to because he needs our help to create instability in the region so Israel can expand further. That and the billionaire military industrial complex players felt like they wanted some more money.

    Name it what it is. Immoral, racist, and a repetition of the same bullshit we’ve been doing in the Middle East for decades. Calling it a strategic failure gives it more value than it deserves.

    • dangusan hour ago
      More people need to read this NYT article. Not only is it astounding the detail and extent of these leaks from the situation room, but what you’re saying is even more true than you might realize.

      Netanyahu literally threw a presentation up on a conference call to to persuade Trump to do this for him.

      I’m having difficulty getting archive.is to work on my browser right now so here’s the plain link:

      https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/07/us/politics/trump-iran-wa...

    • Closian hour ago
      IMO is a one-sided, biased and fairly unsophisticated view of the complex politics of the area, which fails to mention for instance basic things such as how awful the Iranian regime is, or the longer term risk of the iranian nuclear programme.
      • stein1946an hour ago
        Are you going to offer a “multi sided, unbiased and fairly sophisticated” view yourself or?

        The view that trump went to Iran because “regime awful” does not seem to qualify

  • RickHull2 hours ago
    TACO is misleading. TASAD: Trump Always Seeks A Deal.
    • ZeroGravitas19 minutes ago
      "everything Trump touches dies" (the title of a Republican Strategist's book) seems more appropriate.

      Apart from literal deaths, this has torched American military and diplomtic credibility across the globe. It was basically guaranteed to, with the only potential slim upside for America being a demonstration that their military might when applied ruthlessly might dramatically punish their victims as a warning to others. And it has so far failed at that.

    • dangusan hour ago
      And the deal is worse than what we already had before he blew up the entire situation for no reason.
    • lwansbrough2 hours ago
      TASTWDYCPI: Trump always seeks the worst deal you can possibly imagine
    • jdlshore2 hours ago
      He’s objectively terrible at making deals, though. He’s apparently incapable of win-win scenarios. His ego demands that he win while the other party loses, where “winning” is defined as “personally stroking his own ego” and “lining his pockets.” His only negotiation tactic is threats and bullying.

      Although, in this case, given recent news about prediction market plays, I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that the whole farce of a “ceasefire” was just prediction market manipulation. (Well, that and TACO Tuesday so Trump could get out of following through on his threat of genocide. One spot of sanity, if you can call it that, in a shit sandwich of the stupidest US foreign policy blunder since the war in Vietnam.)

      • fifilura41 minutes ago
        > apparently incapable of win-win scenarios

        And this is exactly the opposite of how trade works. Trade only happens if both parties have something to gain from it.

      • defrost43 minutes ago
        Some say the stupidest US foreign policy blunder ever, perhaps even the greatest in all history by any leader, dumber even than invading Russia in winter.
        • onlypassingthru13 minutes ago
          The stupidest US foreign policy blunder... so far. Invading Cuba, invading Greenland and dropping out of NATO are all on deck, so let's not pick a winner just yet.