EmDash creators on lock-in, Node sandboxing, and Cloudflare's commitment [video](www.youtube.com)
4 pointsby zackkatz2 hours ago1 comment
  • zackkatz2 hours ago
    Disclosure: I'm one of the hosts.

    This was one of EmDash's first podcast interviews since launch. A few things that came up that I haven't seen addressed elsewhere:

    - Kane confirmed Matthew Prince (Cloudflare CEO) directly asked "can we build the next WordPress?" — this was top-down, not a skunkworks project

    - Their Q2 roadmap was literally a question mark. They didn't know if anyone would care. The community response changed that, and they're actively allocating resources

    - Plugin sandboxing outside Cloudflare is being worked on by community contributors; Kane expects a Node implementation "next week"

    - They want federated/distributed plugin marketplaces (looking at the FAIR proposal), not a centralized store

    - Joost de Valk (Yoast creator) already has a merged PR improving SEO handling in core

    - No marketplace monetization yet, but they explicitly want devs to build commercial businesses on it

    First 37 minutes is the interview, rest is discussion of implications from a WordPress product perspective.

    • verdverm2 hours ago
      > this was top-down, not a skunkworks project

      This is telling, though it already seems like it. It's just another vendor's lock-in.

      • toderash2 hours ago
        That's been the most common criticism, but it already doesn't require CF, and they're explicitly working on extending plugin sandboxing to work on other platforms. Plus, of course, GPL.

        I don't see this as any more vendor-locking than a .com account. It's still early days, so can't really judge it as a finished product, but the opening shot across the bow is a big one.

      • ianmisner2 hours ago
        They're actively trying to avoid any kind of lock in, by the sounds of it. I'm still skeptical myself but it's at least a "wait and see"