Sam Altman's sister amends lawsuit accusing OpenAI CEO of sexual abuse(www.independent.co.uk)
25 pointsby therobots92710 hours ago5 comments
  • falseprofit8 hours ago
    Is this article just plagiarized from the Reuters one from the day before?

    https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/judge-now-dismisses...

  • Teever9 hours ago
    Can anyone tell if me there's ever been a substantial conversatino about this topic on HN? I see occasional threads that more or less whisper about it but never a major post where people really discuss it openly.
    • dragonwriter9 hours ago
      Its pretty much impossible to have a substantial discussion because the facts (beyond the fact of the allegations) are opaque. Its a highly emotionally charged issue involving a divisive figure where pretty much no one has any access to useful facts. Discussions are destined to be all noise, no signal.
      • Teever8 hours ago
        That wasn't really the vibe in 2016 with Harvey Weinstein or Kevin Spacey.

        What changed?

        • armchairhacker7 hours ago
          Harvey Weinstein had evidence and was convicted of rape.

          Kevin Spacey had many people accuse him. But he was cleared of all charges, and no-one seems to have evidence. Honestly, I suspect he was an innocent victim of #MeToo (an overshot of the direction that rightfully convicted people like Weinstein), and may get a revival soon (the last charges were settled in March, see the vibe of https://old.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/1q45z9e/cmv_n...)

          Altman has an accusation from one person with no evidence.

        • dcrazy8 hours ago
          Weinstein blew open when Ashley Judd and Rose McGowan spoke to the New York Times [0].

          That in turn led to more concrete public allegations against Spacey, which he tried to deflect by “choosing to live as a gay man.”

          [0]: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/05/us/harvey-weinstein-haras...

        • salawat8 hours ago
          They weren't working on the key to break the dependence of the wealthy on the working class.
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    • believme1123e49 hours ago
      Nobody wants to be subject of a false SA accusation, leave alone something as dramatic as this.

      So It's very natural for people to give benefit of doubt and stay silent when these allegations have not been proven. Even those who absolutely hate Sam Altman for other reasons.

      • PeterStuer7 hours ago
        How do you propose Annie proves this?
        • tetromino_6 hours ago
          Using eyewitnesses to corroborate as much of her story as possible, plus any artifacts generated during the years of abuse (medical records, therapist notes, texts/letters to friends, diary entries, etc.).
      • therobots9278 hours ago
        Nobody wants to be molested by their older brother either.
  • simianwords8 hours ago
    Sam Altman gets accused of raping his own sister.

    Sam Altman gets accused of murdering a whistleblower employee.

    Sam Altman gets accused of lying and cheating the board and gets ousted.

    Bro is either cartoonishly evil or something else.

    • tim3337 hours ago
      Maybe people on the internet like to slag off anyone rich and famous? The only one there seems evidence for is him being less than candid with the board.
    • bitwank8 hours ago
      He is well known to be morally troubled— his postings here over the years gave off that vibe for most who paid attention— but even if he were a hypersexual psychopath or something like that, it doesn’t prove he molested his little sister all those times. There’s a lot of grey area in childhood sexuality, and Sam seems like a “grey area” sort of guy fwiw. He is probably mostly innocent.
      • PeterStuer7 hours ago
        "There’s a lot of grey area in childhood sexuality"

        This one you are seriously going to have to explain to me.

      • therobots9277 hours ago
        It’s he said she said. And in this case we’re being asked to believe the very wealthy and powerful older brother over a younger sister who has to rely on “the family” for money and who “the family” claims is “mentally unwell”.

        Got it.

        • simianwords7 hours ago
          What’s the point you are trying to make.
    • mhitza8 hours ago
      > Sam Altman gets accused of lying and cheating the board and gets ousted.

      I haven't seen this claim made before. The reason for his ousting where never cleared up.

      • tim3337 hours ago
        The public thing was

        > Altman’s ouster, which is effective immediately, follows “a deliberative review process by the board, which concluded that he was not consistently candid in his communications with the board, hindering its ability to exercise its responsibilities,” the board said in a blog post Friday.

        I'm not sure there's much info beyond that?

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