US Army chief of staff fired by Hegseth(www.reuters.com)
32 pointsby hedayet11 hours ago5 comments
  • jacquesm9 hours ago
    So, what are the odds of nukes/ground invasion/flyby being the cause for this (other than competence)?
  • segmondy10 hours ago
    behold the incoming attempt at oct coup
    • jmye7 hours ago
      I’m not following. Are you suggesting that Hegseth, maybe the second dumbest person to ever hold a cabinet position, is plotting a coup?

      I also don’t follow how getting rid of “disloyal people” (given prior patterns, not as a comment on these moves specifically) would precede a Türkiye-style “coup”, either.

  • mothballed11 hours ago
    There should probably be some kind of elected position, independent from the three branches, who's sole task is to veto presidential orders to the armed forces. The president having war powers without authorization of congress is probably desirable since congress is too slow, but some quick in the loop sanity check would be useful.
    • uncanny26 hours ago
      You mean like the ancient tradition of the Roman Censure. Someone who “monitors” the legislative branches and may “veto” any governmental action determined against the public good.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_censor

    • krapp11 hours ago
      > The president having war powers without authorization of congress is probably desirable since congress is too slow, but some quick in the loop sanity check would be useful.

      I disagree. The decision to go to war should always be slow and deliberate. I can't think of a single case where the President deciding to send troops on a whim without consulting Congress or getting their approval first ever worked out well.

      • fragmedean hour ago
        The 1999 bombing of Yugoslavia in the Kosovo War by NATO did not have congressional approval and while it was not perfect or troops, I'd put it ever so slightly on the side of "well" vs the current debacle.
      • mothballed11 hours ago
        I suppose the devil is in the details of "getting their approval" but it's worth noting Lincoln prosecuted the Civil War without seeking a declaration of war with congress.
        • KylerAce11 hours ago
          That's because the United States official position in the civil war was that the south was a part of the US that was in rebellion, and not a sovereign state that we were at war with.
          • mothballed10 hours ago
            I don't see how that negates the action of sending of troops for combat. You're just arguing an excuse as to why congress wasn't sought to to declare war in this "case where the President decid[ed] to send troops." There is always some excuse for that nowadays, quite conveniently, so you're in good company.
            • vagrantJin8 hours ago
              Civil war is always an exception because of the special circumstances. Its not an act of war but a state of emergency which has it's own protocols regarding presidential powers.
        • krapp10 hours ago
          That might be the one exception.
    • readitalready11 hours ago
      A lot of government would be improved by making elected positions be very specific roles.

      Why are we deciding military strategy from a guy that was elected to fix labor rights? Should the same guy running the school system also be in charge of selecting Supreme Court justices?

      Also, the founding fathers had it right: An independent electoral college should decide elected positions, not the general public. Hiring decisions should be left up to people that are expert at hiring, not random people.

      The only role the general public should have in government is deciding their representative - it's literally in the name!

      And executive branch isn't supposed to be a representative. It's only role is to execute laws created by the representatives.

      • maxerickson10 hours ago
        Really pushing the definition of elected there.
    • Jamesbeam2 hours ago
      That is what they have General Claude for.

      Gen. Claude sometimes misjudges things and hallucinates but that’s alright, because the president said the enemy is bombing their own girl schools with tomahawks so it’s ok to grab them by the meow.

      Something the president practiced for years on a far away island. Trust the process.

  • b40d-48b2-979e11 hours ago

        Earlier this week, however, Hegseth reversed an Army decision to investigate Army pilots who
    were flying attack helicopters near singer Kid Rock's house, in an apparent show of support
    for the vocal Trump backer.
    The corruption is never-ending.