2 pointsby SsgMshdPotatoes8 hours ago2 comments
  • marysminefnufan hour ago
    every substack link I clicked on from hn this morning was ai generated. ai photo and text lol. that means when we comment on those posts we are commenting on someones prompting and not that persons original thoughts. there needs to be a zero ai tag we can filter so I dont have to consume ai gen content. its getting ridiculous
  • 9rx7 hours ago
    The same as the past? The medium is the message. AI doesn't change the medium.
    • SsgMshdPotatoes7 hours ago
      Maybe I could've worded it a bit better, the question is not whether forums such as HN will continue to exist, but whether/how it is possible to keep them "human", and also what appropriate definitions of that could be.
      • 9rx7 hours ago
        Online discussion forums have never been "human". You can rightfully point out that in the past human operators were required to keep the software operational as an implementation detail, and that we may be reaching a point where they are no longer an implementation need, but it is just that: An implementation detail. An alternative implementation does not really change anything. The medium is the message.
        • SsgMshdPotatoes7 hours ago
          I guess the question body wasn't clear enough, because that's not what I meant. My bad if so - I just rephrased the part in parentheses to make it clearer.
          • 9rx6 hours ago
            I do not find a lack of clarity, but rather a misunderstanding of the medium. Human discussion takes place where you find humans. Online discussion forums are not human, but rather software. The entire appeal is that it isn't "human". It is something else entirely. A change in how the "black box" is implemented under the hood does not alter the medium itself.
            • SsgMshdPotatoes6 hours ago
              "The entire appeal is that it isn't "human"" - yes, part of the appeal is perhaps that the medium isn't human, but also that the message IS still human, right? And that is the combination I'm talking about.
              • 9rx6 hours ago
                If the medium isn't human then the message cannot be human. The medium is the message.