11 pointsby measurablefunc11 hours ago4 comments
  • chuckadams10 hours ago
    Because we have such solid and airtight definitions of "consciousness" and "sentience".
    • rileymat210 hours ago
      Yeah, that’s my main beef with this article. There is not even an attempt, just waving hands and saying they are not.

      Decades and decades of “turing test” talk until they can pass it.

      • Kim_Bruning6 hours ago
        Mind: Turing test doesn't test for actual thinking though, just functional indistinguishability. Turing sidestepped the problem way back when.
  • rileymat210 hours ago
    > are trained on what we told them we do. They don’t “think” at all. They’re a mixmaster of other people’s ideas, cleverly packaged in a way that we perceive as natural.

    Sometimes I wonder how this is different from most of my education. Or my creativity, mixing ideas together to see if they still make sense with other things I have been told.

    • Kim_Bruning6 hours ago
      "what is 16929481231+22312333222?" is an easy way to test this claim. Pick large enough numbers and there's no way all the sums of that size would fit into the dataset (you don't need to stick to + either, but it's the simplest thing that works)
  • simianwords10 hours ago
    Can I say something? In the cusp of civilisational scale of technological revolution, it may be important to seriously consider and explore ideas that may seem outlandish.

    Every single such revolution probably involved so called level headed people calling out the hype bro's. Just take a look at this: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_New_York_Times/1903/10/9/... (people really thought Aeroplanes were never going to happen).

    I don't disagree that we need some level-headedness to counteract some outrageous predictions but please remember that it is more or less given that every step change in technology involves a level headed person dismissing the technology.

    Since it happens so unfrequently, there are obvious incentives to take the role of a levelheaded person instead of a hype-bro because you will be right dismiss 100 hypes that don't materialise.

  • BugsJustFindMe10 hours ago
    Nearly every sentence of this is a logical fallacy.
    • measurablefunc2 hours ago
      You should provide evidence & examples for your claims if you want to be taken seriously.