182 pointsby m-hodges6 hours ago31 comments
  • fmajid3 hours ago
    GMail, like Apple, has specific enhanced security programs available for Politically Exposed Persons:

    https://landing.google.com/intl/en_in/advancedprotection/

    The fact the Director of the FBI did not avail himself of this just reiterates how incompetent he is, in addition to being corrupt as heck.

    • kevin_thibedeau2 hours ago
      It's possible it was breached in 2022 and they've held on to it until now.
    • billfor2 hours ago
      Read the article he wasn't the director of the FBI: "The stolen emails appear to date from around 2011 to 2022"
      • hughw2 hours ago
        He's had over a year to enable it.
        • DaSHacka6 minutes ago
          Why would he, when he wasn't director of the FBI then?
          • hughw3 minutes ago
            Agree only a smart person would the sense in it.
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    • ab_testing2 hours ago
      Was that landing page written by Google India team !
    • Betelbuddy2 hours ago
      It would be poetic justice to get the unredacted Epstein files via Iran...
  • everdrive6 hours ago
    Interesting, and not all that implausible. The real test: his personal email should be pretty uninteresting except for stuff like HIPAA, amazon purchases, communications with friends / family. (good for HUMINT) But other than that, there shouldn't be anything in there which should make the news. It'll be interesting to see whether or not that bears out.

    If they wanted to maintain access, they certainly wouldn't celebrate it publicly, which is why I assume they want to release information. But, there shouldn't be anything damning to release. ie, there ought not to be if the director is acting professionally. We'll see how the facts bear out. I also suppose it's possible they're just going for any win they can and there's nothing interesting here whatsoever, or it's a really boring secondary address or something.

    • throwaway274486 hours ago
      I think this is actually the opposite of the correct conclusion—just look how influential Patreus cheating on his wife was (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petraeus_scandal). I seriously doubt that Kash Patel doesn't have a bunch of skeletons to dust off and show the world; the man is a weirdo (much like the rest of the administration).

      EDIT: I actually misread the comment; I think we're likely in agreement. My bad.

      • Jare6 hours ago
        I don't know, these days skeletons seem to be treated as funny decoration and we're in a permanent state of Halloween.
        • redanddead4 hours ago
          Sullying Halloween's good name
      • _fat_santa5 hours ago
        I was just reading a X thread that published some of the more notable things and overall it's pretty innocuous. The most "controversial" thing thus far is he took a trip to Cuba
      • nixon_why695 hours ago
        I'd like to chime in and say that that Kash Patel, while completely unprofessional and incompetent, is way less of a weirdo than the rest of the administration.

        His scandals are all about shirking job responsibilities to party and sightsee. That's not great from the FBI director but its way more normal than the rest of them.

        • mikeyouse5 hours ago
          That's not remotely true of his history.. he's a full on Jan-6er, deep into Q-Anon, he was involved in numerous serious scandals during the first Trump admin (Nunes Memo / Russiagate 'parallel' investigation: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/01/the-men...), he has a number of sketchy moneymaking side-businesses, he was formerly living with a GOP megadonor 'Timeshare Tycoon' as roommates in Vegas (https://thenevadaindependent.com/article/trump-fbi-pick-kash...), he collected enemies' lists for Trump which resulted in firing of most of the Iran counterintel team right before we started launching attacks because they had the termerity to investigate why Trump was showing donors top-secret maps of Iran after he left office..
          • quantified3 hours ago
            In the current environment, those are more expecteds than scandalous. Insider trades around government activities, same-sex behavior, overt racism for example might nudge the needle.
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          • nixon_why694 hours ago
            I'm not defending or advocating for the guy, just saying, if you're gonna be a piece of shit, he seems more relatable than the rest of them.
        • embedding-shape5 hours ago
          I dunno, a sitting FBI director testifying under oath about details that are clearly false, goes above and way beyond "to party and sightsee". At least in my world it puts him up there together with the rest of the weirdos.
        • nickburns5 hours ago
          So you mean to point out that the sitting FBI director is a bro's bro.
      • close045 hours ago
        > look how influential Patreus cheating on his wife was

        Those times have passed. I'll restate what I said in a comment some days ago:

        >> 50 years ago the press was "impeaching" presidents. Today presidents are "impeaching" the press

        The current strategy is "keep the outrage hose on full blast and eventually people get desensitized". It works.

        • mc325 hours ago
          The press was stupid. They were doing stupid gotchas like swiftboats, fake reports on GWB (Dan Rather), but couldn’t care less about things like the CIA and the crack cocaine connection[1], or lots of other things the government gets away with (including Clappers total information awareness unconstitutional surveillance efforts) The press is always carrying water for someone but that someone is rarely the public unless is just pure coincidence.

          [1] there was one reporter who dared but the toll from the story resulted in his suicide, some years later. His colleagues poo-pooed his reporting on the connection.

      • treebeard9015 hours ago
        Maybe the hackers will release information connecting Patel to the Noem and Lewandowski grift operations with govt contracts. Out of the four companies allowed to bid for the $220 million advertising contract, 3 were linked to Noem and Lewandowski and one to Patel.

        Im sure they are all doing it...

        • MyHonestOpinon5 hours ago
          Well, if the president sets the example. What can you expect from the rest ?
      • hypeatei6 hours ago
        There is so much corruption and impropriety in this administration that skeletons don't matter anymore. Looking at what sunk officials in previous administrations provides a sense for just how far gone we are, but it's not an indicator of what future consequences will be.
        • Loughla3 hours ago
          Dan Quayle lost a serious bid because he couldn't spell potato.

          Now look at where we're at. It really is wild. Right, wrong, or indifferent. How far we've shifted is absolutely wild.

          • throwaway274484 minutes ago
            Dan Quayle also had the charisma of a potato. Let's not overfit this curve.
      • stronglikedan5 hours ago
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        • thejazzman5 hours ago
          Trump is currently in office ;)
        • snapcaster5 hours ago
          This simping is such a bad look. Why go to bat for a man who wouldn't piss on you to put out a fire? Act like a man jesus christ
    • tencentshill6 hours ago
      Surely we are currently clean on OPSEC. There couldn't be any precedent for government officials using private email servers for confidential information!
      • vessenes5 hours ago
        obligatory - that first famous private server was done because someone wanted a blackberry like Obama had, and was told no by NSA. Man that BB keyboard was good.
        • bookofjoe5 hours ago
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          • connorgurney2 hours ago
            I’ve been using a Clicks case since the early days and have personally loved every second of it but it’s definitely an acquired taste. Let us know how you find it.
    • rurp5 hours ago
      Are we talking about the same FBI director here? Professional and competent are not how I would describe Kash Patel. Given his overt buffoonishness and the whole administration's disdain for procedure and expertise I would be shocked if he didn't have extremely inappropriate content in his inbox.
      • conception5 hours ago
        I believe “if” is doing a tremendous amount of work in parent’s comment.
    • firefax5 hours ago
      >his personal email should be pretty uninteresting except for stuff like HIPAA

      medical diagnoses can be incredibly useful in understanding past and future actions

      >there shouldn't be anything damning to release. ie, there ought not to be if the director is acting professionally

      that "if" is doing some heavy lifting given who we are discussing

    • embedding-shape6 hours ago
      > his personal email should be pretty uninteresting except for stuff like HIPAA, amazon purchases, communications with friends / family. (good for HUMINT) But other than that, there shouldn't be anything in there which should make the news. It'll be interesting to see whether or not that bears out.

      Aren't these the same people who apparently used Signal with a journalist in the chat, and had military conversations in that very chat?

      Color me surprised if these people haven't heard of opsec before, and mix their work/personal life all over the place.

      • drnick15 hours ago
        > Aren't these the same people who apparently used Signal with a journalist in the chat, and had military conversations in that very chat?

        Signal is one of the most secure communication platforms out there, but it is obviously not immune to human error or social engineering.

        • mikeyouse5 hours ago
          Also wildly illegal to use to conduct government business, especially confidential government business. (and yes the messages were auto-deleting and largely lost before anyone chimes in with technically they could be archived!)
        • embedding-shape5 hours ago
          Ok? Signal is not the topic of my comment really, nor has anyone claimed it's less secure than other chat apps.
      • everdrive6 hours ago
        Yes, and I wouldn't be shocked if there was classified information in there. I struggled with wording, but what I meant was "you're not supposed to be able to find classified or sensitive information in personal email, but I who knows what will be the case here."
      • dmix6 hours ago
        Signal started being used during the Biden administration, the issue was how they were managing contacts which could be added to groups. They weren't carefully vetting access and a journalist with the same name as another military guy was added to the group by accident.
        • apical_dendrite5 hours ago
          Source?
          • dmix5 hours ago
            The public record of a contract to the Israeli company which handled archiving Signal chats for the DoD was done during Biden admin. And it's been well reported if you just Google it:

            > Alexa Henning, spokesperson for the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, tweeted last week that “widespread use” of Signal began under the Biden administration, adding that “at ODNI, when I got my phone, it was pre-installed.”

            https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/02/inside-the-hazy-fra...

            • apical_dendrite3 hours ago
              You're missing some key distinctions. The issues are: 1) putting classified information into a non-classified system; 2) putting information that needs to be preserved under laws like the presidential records act into systems where it's set to be auto-deleted. Both are illegal. Simply saying that the Biden administration pre-installed Signal is irrelevant. There are legitimate uses.

              Your own article makes this exact point: > Matthew Shoemaker, a former Defense Intelligence Agency analyst who left the agency in 2021, said that while Signal was used during his time in government, “it was almost exclusively restricted to scheduling purposes,” such as letting their boss know that they’ll be late to work because of personal circumstances. “That’s why Signalgate is all the more staggering — because these senior leaders were doing the exact opposite of what even my most junior intelligence officers knew not to do,” he said.

              You're doing bullshit partisan whataboutism. "well the democrats did it first".

              This has nothing to do with adding the wrong contacts. It has to do with putting highly-sensitive material into Signal to circumvent the law around records preservation and as a result creating a situation where it's possible to accidentally add the wrong contact and therefore exposing that information to a journalist.

      • throwa3562626 hours ago

            'Aren't these the same people who apparently used Signal with a journalist...'
        
        
        Are people still believing that story? That leak was 110% intentional, just look at the language used during their conversation.

        The whole thing looked like a digital version of a stage whisper.

        • embedding-shape6 hours ago
          > The investigation has led to turmoil within the Defense Department, raising tensions and the firings and resignations of several top DoD officials, including former Chief of Staff Joe Kasper. [...] On May 1, 2025, it was revealed that both national security adviser Mike Waltz and his deputy Alex Wong would be leaving their posts in the National Security Council

          Let me guess, the "leak" was intentional just to break a bunch of laws and to cause a bunch of people to get fired and leave their posts?

          • apercu5 hours ago
            They do a lot of mental heavy lifting to support a corrupt and incompetent administration- sunk cost fallacy I imagine.
        • Forgeties795 hours ago
          The facts simply do not bear this interpretation out. Investigations and heads rolling for a stage whisper? Nah
    • bitwank5 hours ago
      Yeah, the fact they announced it proves it’s nothing. I saw a picture of him smoking a cigar. We’ve already seen him drinking beer and acting foolish; probably enough to get you executed in Isfahan, but a giant nothining in the USA.
    • JeremyNT5 hours ago
      > The real test: his personal email should be pretty uninteresting except for stuff like HIPAA, amazon purchases, communications with friends / family. (good for HUMINT) But other than that, there shouldn't be anything in there which should make the news.

      I have no idea why this would be the default assumption for somebody as sloppy and erratic as Patel. Look at how many people were emailing damning stuff to/from Epstein's personal email accounts from their own personal email accounts!

    • BigTTYGothGF5 hours ago
      Those "should"s are doing a lot of heavy lifting.
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  • nullable_bool4 hours ago
    Gone are the days of the strong silent type running the roles of high power in the government. He is a real embarrassment and I feel sorry for his mother.
    • BigTTYGothGF2 hours ago
      > Gone are the days of the strong silent type running the roles of high power in the government

      What, like J.Edgar?

    • snovymgodym3 hours ago
      > I feel sorry for his mother.

      In all likelihood his upbringing is what made him this way.

      • acuozzoan hour ago
        You think so? Peers, in my experience, have an even greater impact, especially between the ages of 10 and 25.
    • TheGRS3 hours ago
      Gone only because current leadership kicked them all to the curb and told them to get out of Washington. Only loyal talking heads are wanted there now.
    • paxys3 hours ago
      The strong silent types were all fired for being "woke". We collectively decided that incompetence should be the top qualification for all positions of power, and the results are obvious.
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  • paxys3 hours ago
    I feel like sending phishing emails for penis enlargement pills would take down half the current administration.
    • penguin_booze3 hours ago
      I know someone who will be interested in bigger hands--big beautiful hands.
      • Muhammad5233 hours ago
        I must say, i'd prefer if my hands remained the same size they are now. I dont want to lose my dexterity. Slightly offtopic
    • disantlor3 hours ago
      worth a try
  • paxys5 hours ago
    A couple of DOGE teenagers were able to casually walk in and steal the entire country's social security and healthcare data (and probably more), and we were cheering them on. There is still no accountability, and it has probably already been sold to the highest bidder. So this would be the least surprising thing in the world.
    • Wololooo5 hours ago
      We? I don't think I've seen anyone but the people absolutely not understanding the gravity of the situation were cheering on. And I'm not even American.
      • quantified34 minutes ago
        "We" is such an imprecise word for a pool of people. I believe Chinese has two flavors, "zanmen" including the listener too, and "women" excluding the listener. Obviously "we" did not elect Trump, only "a majority of the US voters who voted", and even the others may sadly use "we" though they didn't, because they are members of the political body that did. Just like the "they" of Israel that harass Palestinians and throw up West Bank settlements do not reflect all of Israel, and the average Soviet citizen did not reflect the behavior of the Soviet government.
        • Drakim27 minutes ago
          In English, you can say "we" or "they"
    • drstewart5 hours ago
      That sure is a lot of probablies for those accusations.

      But anyway it doesn't matter since all that information was probably sold by the previous administration's son, who probably funded a lot of drug parties with the money.

      • magicalist5 hours ago
        I don't know if this is an irony thing I'm not getting, but we know they had untracked access to data they shouldn't have (violating data access rules and orders from a judge), and there is a whistleblower accusation that the data was retained and some DOGE staffers were at least talking with other groups who could use the data.

        Meanwhile how would Hunter Biden, not a government employee nor having access to government systems, get that data in the first place?

        • drstewart3 hours ago
          Hunter Biden was accused of many crimes too. He probably got access from his dad.
          • Gudan hour ago
            “Probably” sources please. We know for a fact that unvetted jerks(“big balls” and so on) had access thanks to Donald Trump.
    • firefax5 hours ago
      Allow me to put on my tinfoil hat for a moment and propose that maybe DOGE did loudly what the Solarwinds paired with OPM breach did quietly years prior.
      • fn-mote5 hours ago
        OPM was much more serious. Equifax had already leaked the social security data and more.
  • mplanchard4 hours ago
    • FlamingMoe4 hours ago
      Interesting comment: "if Iran ends up responsible for regime change in the US, i will be overjoyed as i die from irony"
    • pogue2 hours ago
      Anybody dug through it yet?
    • smrtinsert4 hours ago
      Is it legal to download something like this?
      • paxys3 hours ago
        Legal or illegal doesn't really matter. If the regime wants to come for you they will.
      • fluidcruft3 hours ago
        You can't prove you didn't (and the fuzz will produce evidence you did).
      • Muhammad5232 hours ago
        I dont know. I think downloading it with Tor would make it almost impossible to find out you downloaded this stuff anyway.
      • kaliqt2 hours ago
        Legality matters now least of all to either side.
  • macNchz6 hours ago
    I've been wondering if we'd see a cyber campaign emerge in this conflict. To my knowledge Iran seems to have pretty advanced cyber capabilities and increasingly fewer reasons to hold back. Gloves-off cyber war doesn't sound good to me. The US CISA already been cut back, has lost "virtually all of its top officials"^, doesn't have a permanent director, and is operating at a further reduced capacity because of the DHS shutdown.

    ^ https://www.cybersecuritydive.com/news/cisa-senior-official-...

    • mandeepj5 hours ago
      > To my knowledge Iran seems to have pretty advanced cyber capabilities and increasingly fewer reasons to hold back.

      Iran isn’t alone!! They are a quad along with China, Russia, and North Korea.

      • Painsawman1235 hours ago
        that's the thing that people overlook the most in regards to this war.iran isn’t doing this on its own. Russia, China and north korea have been backing it from the start. they’re the ones helping with intel on US base locations across the Middle East, supplying drones, and working out strategies to drag things into a stalemate, plus whatever else iran needs along the way
        • epolanski5 hours ago
          Can you blame them? Iran is fighting for its own survival and has to find help where it can.

          If the US had an educated administration not composed by lap dogs they would've known that attacking Iran was going to be a terrible idea.

          Saddam did the same mistake in 1980.

          He thought that the Iranian Kurds, the political opponents, the Iranian Arabs, civilians were going to raise against the regime.

          None of this happened. None. In fact, hundreds of thousands of people, even kids, rallied around the banner. There are documented stories of 13 year olds, jumping on barbed wire to use their bodies as bridges for infantry. Disgusting, yet telling of the fact that the Persians will do everything to defend their land even if they don't like its leadership.

          It's very difficult to convince people you're bombing left that you're helping them get rid of a regime (which, you never know for sure how popular or unpopular it is).

          Iranians, yet again, are rallying around the flag for what is effectively a foreign aggression.

          • kstenerud5 hours ago
            Iran has been preparing for this war for 40 years. So has Israel. They will engage in a battle of supremacy over the Middle East. Both want the USA knocked out so that the Americans can't use their influence there anymore (both consider the USA a nuisance).

            As soon as ground troops land in Iran, it's over for the USA. As it is, oil and goods shipping via the Persian Gulf and the Red Sea will be controlled by Iran for a very long time to come. All Iran has to do is withstand the pummeling, which it very likely will do. And they'll get plenty of support from China, since this plays into the South China Seas plan quite nicely as the USA moves carrier after carrier out of Asia.

          • 40four4 hours ago
            The thing getting overlooked is all of the recent moves by Trump all lead back to China. Venezuela, Cuba, now Iran. These are all tentacles of China. The aggression against these 3 countries is not a coincidence. It’s a concerted and indirect attack on China in an attempt to weaken their subsidiaries. In the eyes of this administration, this is unpleasant, but necessary housekeeping that should have been done decades ago but no one was willing to spend the political capital to do it.

            In Iran, Trump was clearly hoping (and verbally requested) the same thing you say about Sadam. I think we actually do know how unpopular the regime is, the mass protests demonstrated that. But the religious hardliners are the ones with the guns. And they clearly aren’t afraid to use them. So while there was some momentum, after everyone got gunned down in the streets by the IRGC it quickly deflated. So asking unarmed protesters to step up again is kind of big ask, without any material support.

            • mandeepj6 minutes ago
              > The thing getting overlooked is all of the recent moves by Trump all lead back to China.

              Are you trying to frame the twice accidental president as some sort of visionary? He doesn’t even remember what he said 5 mins ago. If he had planned or even had any clue about wars, we’d not be in this mess. He insulted Zelenskyy last year but ended up asking for his help.

              Do you recall orange phenomenon was asking for China’s help just last week, let’s wait for it, to act against their friends, which you called their subsidiaries :-). You can’t script this horror show, even if you wanted to.

            • chirau3 hours ago
              Iranian protesters were not calling for US interference. Let's be very clear about that. They were doing it for their own regime change, not some US imposition. What they think of the US or whether they are for this war or supposed regime change by the US is a totally different consideration.
        • limagnolia4 hours ago
          Russia and North Korea are obviously doing so, but I haven't seen any direct evidence that China is providing intelligence support to Iran, do you have any links? It is certainly plausible, China would love to see Russia tied up in Ukraine and the US tied up in Iran.
    • 40four5 hours ago
      I forget all the details but a hacker group associated with Iran already hacked the infrastructure of a major US health care tech company
      • derwiki5 hours ago
        Stryker. FWIW a friend in ER medicine said it had very very limited effect.
        • 40four4 hours ago
          That’s right thanks. The same Hacker group as this story. Yeah I didn’t hear much after the initial breach so I assumed it was minor.

          Edit: apparently 80000 employee workstations got remotely wiped. So not so I guess I wouldn’t call that minor.

          Also that’s what I get for commenting before reading the story, they mention the Styker incident in the story lol

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  • mattbis5 hours ago
    I really want to know how they did it.. was it some terrible password?

    He doesn't strike me as the kinda person even using a local password manager; like keepass.

    Somebody needs to find this out.

    I doubt it was gmail support... surely it could not be via his phone sim, and if he didn't have two factor on; That would be so funny.

    I'm tempted to check out the dark web or the telegram, but i'd rather not do either of those things.

    • danso5 hours ago
      I too am very curious about this. Even if his password was exposed and he didn’t have 2-factor auth, doesn’t Google by default ask for confirmation — e.g. texting a number or backup email associated with the account — when seeing an unrecognized device? Maybe he didn’t have any alt contact methods associated with his account?

      (which might not be that unusual, he’s old enough to have opened a gmail account upon launch, before extra info hoops were put in place, and maybe he never touched his account config in the past 2 decades?

      • mattbis5 hours ago
        You are probably right... I tend to change my password semi often. It's always a super complex impossible to remember string - and always keep an eye on the account activity.

        Not to mention ; you would assume he should have more than one device linked to the account and then that adds another layer, since Google will ask you " is this you trying to logon ". <-- that is the only way to get Google to do the unrecognized flow you mention.

        If you are suggesting it was exposed and he didn't immediately randomise all his passwords.. WORDS FAIL ME

        It's all security 101 the irony is immense...

        if the US government / FBI need someone to give some talks on how to do security ...

        • ffsm85 hours ago
          Changing a password that's randomly generated is security theatre. It doesn't meaningfully improve security

          Also it's entirely possible they only compromised a honeypot.

          Considering their track record, that's actually more likely tbh

          • mattbis5 hours ago
            Honeypot sure I didn't think of that.. But I was under the impression the FBI confirmed it ? So we can rule it out.

            Making the password impossible to guess - how could that not be?

            Since then you know you have a breach, as its randomised gibberish, if you then get the 2nd device asking " is this you trying to login " you can definitely know you are compromised....

            I can't see your logic here, that isn't " theatre " ????

            If you think that is theatre what is better then? Words and numbers.. easily brute forced.. Sorry can't agree.

            • ffsm84 hours ago
              Why would they willingly destroy their successful honeypot if the other party announced they've access to it?

              I haven't seen what's in it either though, but I would not rule it out yet, especially when the FBI is involved - which love those tactics

              When you're compromised, changing the password is obviously not theatre - but changing a password which is randomly generated with enough entropy is what's pointless theatre. A secure password is secure, esp. If you're already using a password manager then the act of changing isn't meaningfully increasing your security (unless you're aware that your password was compromised) because the way to compromise it is what...? Having a keylogger on a device you logged in on? Then the changed password will be just as compromised

              • mattbis4 hours ago
                That's why keepass is really useful since you aren't ever typing in the password.. its generated and then copied to the clipboard.. That clipboard is then wiped after X seconds.

                So then you know that you have been rooted => If that fails to resolve it.

                Reduce the number of vectors to know what you have to change asap. in this scenario you don't want to be guessing about how they did it.

                The randomised gibberish just means you can rule out certain things. I can agree on part of what your saying but a string high entropy password, makes it harder to brute..

                Many services don't really do that whole retries thing properly. So make it take as long as possible.

                If you don't use a random gibberish your password can be cracked on any consumer device in a surprisingly short amount of time...

                This way you can then focus on that a session token is probably how they got in.. It's the most common vector these days...

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  • mlmonkey6 hours ago
    > On their website, the hacker group Handala Hack Team said . . . .

    Anybody have a link? You know, for science ...

    Edit: Apparently, just last week the DoJ snatched their domains: https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-disrupts-i...

    • megous5 hours ago
      not all of them, search harder
      • AnimalMuppet5 hours ago
        So, to echo the previous comment, got a link?

        "Search harder" is a pretty unfriendly response to a request for a link...

        • megous5 hours ago
          Just saying that there's a working link if you search. It's a useful information on its own.

          There's no reason to post it directly. Their server is slow today even without adding lazy (ok, HN readers not interested in applying some effort to the matter) HN readers to the mix.

  • kevincloudsec6 hours ago
    Forget the Iran attribution for a second. The FBI director's personal email was already in leaked credential databases from prior breaches.
    • bcjdjsndon6 hours ago
      Every now and then something happens that makes me wonder how the fuck America is number one, this being one of them.
      • vrganj4 hours ago
        Don't worry, it's on its way out.
      • basisword4 hours ago
        Number one based on what metric other than they constantly say they're number one?
      • krapp5 hours ago
        America had the advantage of getting through WW2 relatively unscathed with lots of resources and intact infrastructure that it used to leverage against the reconstruction of Europe, Japan and the USSR and entrench its cultural and economic hegemony. Also the US essentially colonized the West with nuclear weapons under the guise of "Pax Americana" and making the dollar the reserve currency.

        That's really it. Not moral superiority, not technical ingenuity, not the indomitable American spirit. Just imperialist opportunism.

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      • bpt35 hours ago
        Loads of natural resources, no local military threats, and historically a government that stayed out of the way and allowed individuals to reap the rewards of their efforts.

        The first is almost impossible to screw up, though we're really trying on the last front.

      • 1234letshaveatw5 hours ago
        We're ranked number one based on the summation of all the angsty teen America bad comments on social media. At least that is the stat the press goes off of I believe
      • jorts5 hours ago
        Because America is a lot more than a podcaster put into a position that he has no qualifications for.
  • 7174n64 hours ago
    I'm sure it will be embarrassing for him personally, but not a breach of U.S. government systems.

    Kudos to CNN for publishing a balanced take on it.

    • ebiester4 hours ago
      These are a group that used outside signal chats to discuss war plans. What odds do you have that he didn't use a personal email to avoid future accountability?
      • hnlmorg2 hours ago
        That’s depressingly common with politicians the world over because Signal supports disappearing messages.

        So I wouldn’t expect someone who uses Signal to automatically be the kind of person to use personal email for work.

    • SirFatty4 hours ago
      You're assuming that he didn't use personal email for his FBI "work".
      • 7174n64 hours ago
        The leak is from 2011-2022. He wasn't in the government then!!!!
        • awkwardpotato3 hours ago
          per Lorenzo Franceschi-Bicchierai

          > In some cases, Patel appears to have sent emails from his former Justice Department email address in 2014 to his Gmail account. TechCrunch found that the emails sent from Patel’s DOJ account also appeared to be authentic.

        • phonon3 hours ago
          Are you kidding? He had extremely sensitive roles as Devin Nunes' House committee aide from 2017–2019 in the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, National Security Council aide and deputy director of national intelligence (2019–2020), and then Chief of staff to the secretary of defense (2020–2021).
        • Hikikomori3 hours ago
          • Muhammad5232 hours ago
            What a weird looking book. The cover shows Trump as the king, lol Anyways, if i were a parent, i'd certainly try to do everything to prevent my kids (under 10) from getting into politics. Let them live as normal kids should.
            • Hikikomori28 minutes ago
              Patel is a weird little goblin for sure.
    • athrowaway3z2 hours ago
      The US media has a clear understanding that their reporting on the war needs to be filtered and biased. This is not some coming-to-their-senses against sensationalism, but a nothingburger they know they can't sensationalize without great risk.

      As is the case in any administration; let alone with an admin as vindictive as Trump's.

      This "balanced take" warrants kudos?

      We're not even pretending to lift the bar off the ground when it comes to mainstream media, are we?

  • ThaDood6 hours ago
    If you check their telegram channel they have some humorous photos and his resume.
  • bcjdjsndon6 hours ago
    Looking good there, murica, looking good
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  • b84 hours ago
    Not surprising as email providers like Yahoo's security are a joke. A former CIA director got his personal emailed pwned as well.
  • pixl974 hours ago
    >“This isn’t an FBI compromise — it’s someone’s personal junk drawer,” he said.

    Eh, with how many people in the current administration seem to use out of band channels to communicate very important things who knows what else they located.

    • ranyume4 hours ago
      This isn’t a written by a human — it's a AI-accelerated piece.
    • Spellinator3 hours ago
      As if this is the first time this has ever happened.

      How many former officials used personal accounts about government business?

      How many corporate executives communicate business via personal accounts to avoid legal discovery?

      How many individuals communicate outside their main email accounts to avoid scrutiny or attribution?

      Point is, nobody should feel superior or shocked that such things like this happen. I understand some enjoy the privacy of their perceived enemies being exposed, but IMHO, nobody should be happy about invasion of anyone's privacy.

    • sirbutters4 hours ago
      Most incompetent administration in the modern era.
      • helterskelter4 hours ago
        Think about it this way, this administration is the most competent administraion we've ever had at being incompetent.
        • Muhammad5232 hours ago
          I dont know why your comment got grayed out but it made me smile.
  • caaqil2 hours ago
    If you read the news with enough cynicism, you'll realize that rules like formality, password strength or cybersecurity hygiene are for the average Joes, not the morons/perverts who run the world.
  • griffzhowl4 hours ago
    But just a personal account with materials reportedly from 2011-2022, not an FBI breach
  • nickpinkston6 hours ago
    Iran... if you're listening...

    We'd love to see all of those Epstein files.

    • shagie5 hours ago
      Is this a reference to

      https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-asked-russia-to-...

      > "Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing, I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press," Trump said in a July 27, 2016 news conference.

    • huggerl886 hours ago
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      • AngryData5 hours ago
        All the time, just those military aged men don't call them their enemy because they know they aren't. Vietnam, Korea, Iraq, Afganistan, etc, most people don't consider the majority of those peoples the enemy whether they are fighting or not because they don't think we should have been trying to kill or subjugate them in the first place.

        The goals and ideals of politicians and powermongers rarely aligns with the majority of the population.

      • flipgimble6 hours ago
        I’d never support a repressive theocracy like the current Iranian regime and will not cheer on their propaganda operations.

        But let’s not confuse this Iran conflict with a legitimate war. Only congress can declare war and appropriate funds for a war. What we have is a rogue authoritarian executive that was incompetent enough to ignore military assessments and be manipulated by Netanyahu to strike.

        People should protest like there is no tomorrow when la senile demagogue is destroying the international world order, free trade and freedom of the seas. That is not the same as rooting for the enemy!

        • guzfip5 hours ago
          > What we have is a rogue authoritarian executive that was incompetent enough to ignore military assessments and be manipulated by Netanyahu to strike.

          Yeah, except we’ve had that for the entirety of this century so far at least.

      • paxys5 hours ago
        Iran has done nothing to harm the average American. Who is the enemy, really?
      • embedding-shape6 hours ago
        Maybe we need to get rid of the concept of "enemy" and "ally", as seemingly those labels matter less and less as time goes on.

        Maybe one is the "enemy", and the others can be "less enemy" and "more enemy". So we're all enemies in reality, but some more enemies than others.

        • fhdkweig5 hours ago
          how about "useful" and "not useful"?
        • Zigurd5 hours ago
          We had allies. Now they are treaty signatories asking themselves WTF?
      • blitzar5 hours ago
        There are 193 countries in the world other than America and whichever country they are bombing this week.
      • SG-5 hours ago
        this is where you find out you're the bad guy.
      • ProllyInfamous5 hours ago
        The time is now, fellow old men.

        —older #millenial (recently re-enlistable ha ha ha ja ha ha)

      • taytus6 hours ago
        Who said they are the enemy?
        • bcjdjsndon6 hours ago
          Yeah lol, if you're suddenly policeman of the world going after evil regimes, how is North Korea still standing? They're forced to be robots or they're killed
          • pasquinelli5 hours ago
            consider that the same people that tell you what's going on in the DPRK also said iran was two weeks away from nuking the middle east, that something called the cartel of the sun was responsible for the drug trade in the united states, and that epstein killed himself.
            • guzfip5 hours ago
              At the end of the day. There are enough idiots to fall for it not once, but twice. The exact same lie.

              We’re doomed because the people are idiots.

      • pasquinelli5 hours ago
        look up revolutionary defeatism.
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  • CrzyLngPwd6 hours ago
    Where did the article go?
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  • morkalork4 hours ago
    No worries. As long as rigorous due diligence was followed when vetting him as a candidate, there will surely be nothing embarrassing or harmful found in his personal emails.
  • ck24 hours ago
    I'm sorry but nothing can ever be more embarrassing for that man who wrote this book to get that job

    https://www.amazon.com/Plot-Against-King-Kash-Patel/dp/19555...

    What an absolute clown

    But far more seriously, imagine the danger he has put this country into by firing so many critical people, some specifically and uniquely for Iran and Middle-East defense

    Let's hope we don't get another 9/11 in the next 1000 days because they are completely unprepared and won't ever see it coming, maybe even on purpose

    • autoexec3 hours ago
      > Let's hope we don't get another 9/11 in the next 1000 days because they are completely unprepared and won't ever see it coming, maybe even on purpose

      Why would anyone bother to attack us now? This entire administration has done more to make The US weak and vulnerable than any outside attacker could have hoped to accomplish. They can just sit back and watch rome burn

    • Oarch4 hours ago
      How am I only finding out about this now... my sides
  • basisword4 hours ago
    How the heck is the buried down to page 4 after one hour?? The head of the FBI having his email hacked is a pretty big tech story.
  • BenFranklin1002 hours ago
    I’m surprised no group has hacked the Epstein files, given the extreme interest.
  • jameskilton4 hours ago
    But ... but her emails!
    • Levitz4 hours ago
      I mean, yes? You can give whatever weight you want to the whole thing, but the core issue with Hillary Clinton and the emails was that she was storing material on a private server rather than in official infrastructure.

      If Patel didn't do such thing here, the breach should only expose personal stuff, if he did, then it's much more of a problem, but either way this is a really clear example of why concern was raised back at the time.

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    • akdev1l3 hours ago
      >just a slow decline into incompetence.

      Give them some credit, it’s been quite rapid.

      • chrisweekly2 hours ago
        when were they anything other than incompetent?
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    • Tostino4 hours ago
      This was an extremely limited leak. Just looked through the zip. I wouldn't doubt he does use his personal email for government purposes, but it's not in here.
    • knowaveragejoe4 hours ago
      Remember when that was considered an actual issue in 2016? I remember congressional hearings over this.
      • e2le4 hours ago
        For those who decried Hillary's E-Mail server but fail to apply the same standards to the current administration, it was never a real issue to begin with. Just performative nonsense.
    • add-sub-mul-div4 hours ago
      And it's not a coincidence that they're also the ones who shout about "meritocracy" the loudest.
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    • thejazzman5 hours ago
      Hacked
      • creantum5 hours ago
        Leaked
        • danso5 hours ago
          yeah it’s totally plausible that Google would risk the reputation and legal status of its global multi-trillion empire to dunk on one of the handful of people who have the near-unilateral authority to dismantle them
          • mikeyouse5 hours ago
            Also - there's zero chance any employees at Google could decide to leak the contents of a specific inbox. That'd be an insane security hole which would've been exploited multiple times already.
            • creantum3 hours ago
              Sysadmins have full access.
        • john_strinlai5 hours ago
          i am eagerly awaiting your evidence for this claim
  • joe_mamba4 hours ago
    Did they find those non-existent Epstein files?

    @vrganj No, the opposite. The Trump admin with Kash Patel, was claiming early on that the Epstein files are a hoax, that he's seen the files personally and there's "nothing there".

    @vrganj It makes sense if you know the context.

    • vrganj4 hours ago
      Is that the latest spin to defend the pedophile class?

      I see you updated your comment, but in a way that doesn't make any sense. Of course the pedophiles in the files will say it's a hoax.

    • bigyabai2 hours ago
      The DOJ acknowledges that over 100,000 files are still withheld.