11 pointsby cf100clunk3 hours ago1 comment
  • verdverm3 hours ago
    I like the concept, app store avoidance, but it really needs to be open source.

    How do I know it's not the government behind this? How can I verify the claims?

    • cf100clunk3 hours ago
      The builder is joshhacks, who posted about it on social media with the title ''I built an ICE tracking app that can't be pulled from the App Store. Because it was never in one.'' Maybe that'll introduce him better. He posted media links here:

      https://antifreeze.app/press

      • crtasm2 hours ago
        It feels misleading of him to include an article he wrote in the Press section.

        "Community - This content is not subject to review by Daily Kos staff prior to publication."

        • cf100clunk2 hours ago
          I'm not joshhacks, just somebody who came across his web app and posted it on HN. I wasn't personally mislead, so I'm not sure what you meant by misleading.
          • verdverm2 hours ago
            I think they mean when companies or projects say "in the press", they typically mean content created and published by 3rd parties, not the 1st party on a 3rd party site that basically allows anyone to post like social media.
            • cf100clunkan hour ago
              Okay, that'd imply self-promotion, but if joshhacks also posted a link to this HN discussion, would it also seem misleading? I'm unsure.
              • verdverman hour ago
                I wouldn't call HN "press", but I do put more weight behind HN discussions because they often have multiple perspectives, and giving site visitors an easy link to potential criticism for transparency is a trust signal to me.

                I still want to see the source before installing. This is a sensitive topic and the current US government seeks to punish anyone who does. I don't know who "joshhacks" is, but I do know the gov't is not above honeypots for this.