6 pointsby appwiz13 hours ago4 comments
  • Jemaclus13 hours ago
    This is a pretty wild take. "They don't know what DevOps or SRE is" is not the flex the author thinks it is. That's just ignorance of the consequences of shipping.

    There's a huge load-bearing assumption in it, as well, which is that AI agent-generated code is correct and bug free. The tight loop only works if the agent reliably produces working, correct, production-ready code. If that were the case, the loop might be intent -> build -> observe. But in reality, it's likely intent -> build -> realize the AI hallucinated an API that doesn't exist -> fix -> discover it broke something else -> fix -> realize the architecture doesn't fit a constraint you thought you had -> start over.

    Not to mention that SDLC things like, I dunno, PR reviews and requirements planning aren't some arcane ceremony designed to waste everyone's time. The ceremonies themselves might be bloated, but the function serves a purpose. Generating 500 PRs isn't a flex either. Volume is not a feature. If your system produces more changes than you can verify, you don't have a review problem, you have a quality problem.

    There's some truth buried in here, but the overarching post is so wildly disconnected from real software development that I'm having a hard time following along.

    Greenfield prototypes? Sure, maybe there's a case for that. But the minute you hit any novel or complex system with more than a couple of engineers, this falls apart pretty fast.

    • andsoitis12 hours ago
      > the loop might be intent -> build -> observe. But in reality, it's likely intent -> build -> realize the AI hallucinated an API that doesn't exist -> fix -> discover it broke something else -> fix -> realize the architecture doesn't fit a constraint you thought you had -> start over.

      what people are betting on is that the latter reality will give way to the promised land of intent -> build -> observe. the prize for that is self-evidently enormous.

      • Jemaclus12 hours ago
        Sure, but the author is presenting it in the present tense ("I don't know anyone who writes code anymore") which isn't grounded in fact or reality, but wishful thinking about the future masquerading as current reality.

        A more interesting take on this, in my mind, would be "The SDLC lifecycle has shifted away from engineers and toward product managers," but that's not the author's argument either. They're arguing that it's _dead_, which is clearly not the case.

  • jbrozena2212 hours ago
    Agree with much of this, though I think it's overly focused on the coding part. I keep seeing framing around "We used to have PMs write specific requirements which were handed to engineers to code". I've been working in tech for 15 years and haven't seen that in reality. Engineers had long been pulled into the requirement gathering phase while PMs focused on higher order Strategy docs. I've heard of places where this is true but hasn't been my experience.
  • khelavastr13 hours ago
    It's more relevant than ever. Iteration and domain definition cycles become tighter and tighter.
  • nacozarina8 hours ago
    if you missed the 90s RAD cycle, this is kinda nostalgic