39 pointsby spaghetdefects3 hours ago6 comments
  • just-the-wrk2 hours ago
    I suspect I am financing this, both directly and indirectly, and I don't feel as though these actions represent my values or interests.
    • dh20222 hours ago
      This feeling you have is representative democracy in action.
      • Gudan hour ago
        There is nothing democratic about the USA.

        The sooner the American public realises this it can work towards building institutions not controlled by the rich and powerful.

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  • ZunarJ52 hours ago
    This didn't have to happen. The world is less safe now because America loves bombing brown people more than it loves its own children.
    • SirFatty2 hours ago
      "This didn't have to happen."

      True, we should just sit back and let Iran finish building it's arsenal of nuclear weapons, continue with their terrorism funding campaigns and killing of their own citizens.

      The only thing that should be different is that the US should have done this years ago.

      • ZunarJ5an hour ago
        A KGB spy and a CIA agent meet up in a bar for a friendly drink. "I have to admit, I'm always so impressed by Soviet propaganda. You really know how to get people worked up," the CIA agent says.

        "Thank you," the KGB says. "We do our best but truly, it's nothing compared to American propaganda. Your people believe everything your state media tells them."

        The CIA agent drops his drink in shock and disgust. "Thank you friend, but you must be confused... There's no propaganda in America."

      • karmakurtisaanian hour ago
        Bombing girl schools is just that better kind of terrorism.
      • newspaper1an hour ago
        Yes, Iran should have nuclear weapons. This will deter Israel and make the world a safer place.
        • SirFatty8 minutes ago
          A theocracy run by jihadists, it's been working great for the last 50 years.
        • nh23423fefean hour ago
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    • mrguyorama2 hours ago
      Even better, the people who voted for this insist that this is what Kamala was going to do! Which is why they had to vote against her!

      We got a broken and incompetent government because tens of millions of dumbasses apparently don't understand that lies exist, and that the guy who lies to your face every day will lie to your face!

    • howard9412 hours ago
      You've turned Golda Meir's quote on its head. Congratulations are in order I guess.
  • iammjm2 hours ago
    They are setting the world on fire and we will all pay the price
    • karmakurtisaani2 hours ago
      But for a brief beautiful moment they owned the libs. And distracted us from the fact they are pedophiles and rapists.
  • howard9412 hours ago
    I'm not sure why the US has refrained from lasing these optical recon birds. Is it a fear of escalation? How many have to die before it happens?
  • newspaper13 hours ago
    If you were wondering why your company’s stock is dropping, here’s the reason. I’m so sick of the entire world being punished so the Israel colony of terror can continue to exist. At what point do we collectively say enough is enough? I’m American and would absolutely support military action against Israel. In fact, it’s imperative that we do that sooner rather than later.
    • ramesh312 hours ago
      A post-IRGC Iran is the single key to peace in the middle east. With Iraq neutralized, the Saudis and Emiratis firmly in the global order, Lebanon subdued by Israel, and Syria at least under (ostensibly) friendly control, Iran is the final piece of the puzzle. Like it or not, the world will be a safer place if the US succeeds here.
      • newspaper1an hour ago
        Peace in the Middle East comes from defeating Zionism. Israeli terror is unrivaled.
      • catlover762 hours ago
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    • spamizbad2 hours ago
      Sorry but this is on the United States. Israel's government has been wanting a show down with Iran for a while but we've typically functioned as the adult in the room to keep the piece - obviously that changed with Biden and now Trump, but Americans own this one.
      • newspaper12 hours ago
        I agree but it’s also on Israel. It was Israel that just bombed this gas field.
        • SirFatty2 hours ago
          Actually, it's on Iran.
          • newspaper1an hour ago
            They were attacked by the US and Israel.
            • SirFatty12 minutes ago
              yes, and why was that?
      • catlover762 hours ago
        The US can share blame, but why should it bear the whole blame, esp since a large chunk of the American population doesn't want this war, whereas it appears that Israeli society largely does back it?
    • loeber2 hours ago
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      • testing223212 hours ago
        I mean, he’s not wrong.
      • pack_stimulus2 hours ago
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        • chucksta2 hours ago
          Everyone is up for some fair criticism in recent events
        • wat100002 hours ago
          What's the comparative kill count this year?
  • ajay-b2 hours ago
    Interesting, who purchases Iranian oil given the sanctions? Ostensibly it would be those that would see the price increases?
    • drdec2 hours ago
      Those who were purchasing it need to go to the global market instead, increasing overall demand on that market
    • nickff2 hours ago
      China is by far the largest customer for Iranian oil, with 'teapot' refiners being a very large proportion of that: https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSLDE63A01120100413/?pageN...
    • OgsyedIE2 hours ago
      China has been buying Iranian crude and gas for many years, mostly due to simply needing as much as they can get.

      The eleven tankers that have so far transited the Strait of Hormuz after the 3rd without being fired upon are all owned by, operated by and delivering to Chinese state-owned companies (AFAIK). The Iranians know they are transiting and are deliberately refraining from shooting, because of the Chinese information support, such as the Mizar-run near-realtime satellite geolocation of parked US aircraft and radars for attack.

      This bit I'm adding is speculation but the likely role of the Marine detachment aboard the USS Tripoli which is currently being sent to the Gulf of Oman is to start sinking these China-bound tankers so as to use the offer of not sinking them to coerce China into supporting the reopening of rhe Strait.

      • dingalingan hour ago
        There's no need for Marines to sink tankers, an SSN in the Gulf of Oman would do that neatly and deniably.

        "You mean to tell me you've lost another tanker? Crazy. Anyway, about this intelligence you're sending Iran..."

        Most likely the Marines are heading for Kharg Island.

    • wat100002 hours ago
      Prices are about the future, not the present. Even if this didn't immediately effect anything, it could signal that other energy infrastructure is a potential target, or merely that the war is going to last longer.
    • thatswrong02 hours ago
      China buys 80% of Iran's shipped oil. But this affects the prices of pretty much anyone who imports oil - if China can't get oil from Iran, they'll purchase it from someone else. Less supply => higher prices for everyone.
      • maxglute2 hours ago
        It also affects China less, they have huge strategic reserve, and massive coal to petchem industry that only becomes economic after $80 barrel. AKA all other big industrial players are energy exporters who has pay spot price. High oil price = PRC competitive advantage on top of being able to brrrt EVs / batteries to displace oil.
    • bdangubic2 hours ago
      econ 101 - supply and demand…