https://polymarket.com/event/will-the-us-confirm-that-aliens...
Man, they really don't think much of their voter base or ordinary people for that matter.
We have discovered aliens!
Still too expensive but not exactly going to bankrupt me.
https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/menlo-park-gas-prices-...
I wonder if Hitler ever said that in the 30s..
> Godwin's law can be applied mistakenly or abused as a distraction, a diversion, or even censorship, when miscasting an opponent's argument as hyperbole even when the comparison made by the argument is appropriate.
And I think considering what this administration has said is important. Do you think otherwise?
Let me guess, similarly you apply "conspiracy theory" to anything you want to kneecap, is that right?
Very mature indeed.
There is this promotional campaign on-going, it could be related
It seems to be an incentive for voluntarily departure
My question after actually reading it though is simple - how does it prevent fraud? Like you just need GPS and a selfie to verify. No bank account required! Since the nominal case is undocumented you don’t have ground truth to check against. What is stopping someone from using an eSIM, OpenClaw, and an emulator from self-deporting thousands of virtual persona at $2600 profit
It just seems poorly considered. I don’t know if they really thought this through.
1. I take self-deportation offer. At Christmas it was $3000 a person, but usually $1000, a commercial plane ticket anywhere, and I can come back to the US upon following the legal method. I can say goodbye to people I can sell my things. I can do this on my own timeline within reason.
2. I’ve risk it and trying to invade ice for the next three years minimum. If Vance wins, I need to make it to at least 2032 without showing up on any radar. I’m careful and looking over my shoulder constantly and work is a never ending dread.
3. I am caught by ICE. I have absolutely no claim to stay in the US. I can sit in a detention center while an NGO funded lawyer tells me that I do. And in high likelihood, I am sent back with no money on a cargo jet and I’m banned from the United States forever. This happens at any moment.
Practically speaking, I just cannot picture taking option two which could be three at any time. The fact is, I would know without a doubt, unfair or not that I am here legally, that my state would apply in any European country as well. I cannot fathom how option one is not the best option. Perhaps I’m too risk adverse.
Pretty much you go back to your country of origin
Typically people take on the immense risk and challenge of leaving their country of origin to come here because their country of origin has really bad problems
Those problems likely still exist or have gotten worse over the last several years due to (if nothing else) COVID further separating the US economy from the rest of the world's
Is this not just? Is this not what every other country in the world would do? Is there a European country you can stay in illegally? Do any of them run remigration programs with cash and free flights to where you came from?
I said that your logic tree elides the fact that they would be going back to a place that they already accepted an immense amount of risk and effort to leave.
In other words: for many people, the US + ICE risk (relatively low risk of catastrophic outcome) is still far better than their home country (high risk of pretty bad outcome)
But let’s say that’s the case… doesn’t that just prove my point that if you are here illegally, that it make no sense to stay?
You: doesn’t that just prove my point that if you are here __illegally__
They're talking about the now well-established fact that ICE is pursuing people who have legal status in this country and using all sorts of tricks (both legal and illegal) to prevent them from exercising their rights.
Here's one example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detention_of_R%C3%BCmeysa_%C3%...
Also, I would be hesitant to say that immigrants being targeted by ICE are "illegal" as we saw some be detained/deported after speaking out against the war in Gaza[2]. Also, a lot claim asylum at the border which is a legal process.
> and I can come back to the US upon following the legal method
That process in reality takes a really long time due to the federal immigration system being strained. The 2024 border bill tried to address this by adding more immigration judges and asylum officers but Trump told Republicans to kill it because it'd make Biden look good. So far all we got was a massive DHS funding increase that allowed Kristi Noem to funnel $100M+ to herself and her friends and kill two American citizens with ICE.
0: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/15/us/politics/farm-labor-tr...
1: https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5601588-trump-h1...
2: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/2026/03/17/immigrati...
Oh ya, I remember that. The Democrat bill with a few Republicans that conservatives call RINOs on board. Collins, McConnell, Murkowski, etc.
Again, objectively, it does look bad that bill was to secure the border but Trump Admin seems to have done that without a bill.
This is a matter of simply breaking the law.
The border is secured in the sense that Trump has made the US such an unappealing destination that fewer people want to risk it. It's a valid strategy (if awful) except in that doing so essentially requires the government to violate laws.
Turns out it's easy to "solve problems" when you aren't constrained by laws. Not an insight whatsoever.
Specific laws being violated:
* Due Process protections
* Equal Protection
* Asylum laws
Actually towards the end of the Biden administration, they engaged in similar law-breaking because immigration was obviously going to be such a political liability going into the election. Those moves have since been found to be illegal: https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/district-court-strikes-d...
Most of the Trump admin's moves to make the US so unappealing that no one wants to risk coming here will also ultimately be found to be illegal.
They'd be stupid to use anybody else.
there is so much you can legitimately be upset with cloudflare for, that i do not understand the need to exaggerate
Cloudflare has proudly protected Trump campaign websites for the last decade https://www.businessinsider.com/cloudflare-ceo-anonymous-ddo...
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Official websites use .gov
A .gov website belongs to an official government organization in the United States.
"Welcome to Aliens.gov -- a friendly guide and reminder to leave."
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"Ya fired."
I remember reading shady sites in 00s, where the other side claimed that govts around the world will get along on this idea and with help of elaborated holograms hoax will tell populations that aliens are here among us/are about to invade.
Here, in the mid-20s it's much cheaper to do that with help of AI. /s
Anyway, guess it's "some kind of" distraction, again? /s
If they ask you to prove you’re not a robot, then we get into discussing sentient robots from other worlds.
What we’d be really interested in proving if we found proof of other intelligent life is personhood.