10 pointsby newswangerd2 hours ago12 comments
  • cebert2 hours ago
    We won’t hire anybody moving forward who doesn’t have hands-on agentic programming experience. We’re in the traditionally slower moving GovTech space. I have to imagine this is now a common expectation in many sectors.

    Teams where I work can use Claude Code, Codex, Cursor, and Copilot CLI. Internally, it seems like Claude Code and Codex are the more popular tools being used by most software teams.

    If you’re new to these tools, I highly recommend trying to build something with them during your free time. This space has evolved rapidly the past few months. Anthropic is offering a special spring break promotion where you can double the limits on weeknights and weekends for any of its subscription plans until the end of March.

    • nitink23an hour ago
      Random question but what are some issues your facing with these ? I am just curious because everyone in my org uses them but act like it doesn't bring them any productivity gains probably they are scared to admit that it's actually been super helpful otherwise they are out of a job.
    • georgemcbayan hour ago
      > We won’t hire anybody moving forward who doesn’t have hands-on agentic programming experience.

      This doesn't make a lot of sense to me even as someone who uses agentic programming.

      I would understand not hiring people who are against the idea of agentic programming, but I'd take a skilled programmer (especially one who is good at code review and debugging) who never touched agentic/LLM programming (but knows they will be expected to use it) over someone with less overall programming experience (but some agentic programming experience) every single time.

      I think people vastly oversell using agents as some sort of skill in its own right when the reality is that a skilled developer can pick up how to use the flows and tools on the timescale of hours/days.

      • furyofantares6 minutes ago
        Yeah, will they take someone who has two months of hands-on with Claude Code, just not someone with zero? Come on, I'll take a great programmer with zero who knows they need to use it over a mediocre programmer who's been doing it since Claude Code released and I expect to be better off for doing so within 2 weeks.
      • dlivingston44 minutes ago
        Right. Using Claude Code & friends is not some esoteric skill that needs years in the trenches to learn which magical incantations to utter.

        You prompt it. That's it. Yes, there are better and worse ways of prompting; yes, there are techniques and SKILLs and MCP servers for maximizing usability, and yes, there are right ways to vibe code and wrong ways to vibe code. But it's not hard. At all.

        And the last person I want to work with is the expert vibe coder who doesn't know the fundamentals well enough to have coded the same thing by hand.

  • scorpioxy31 minutes ago
    Oh definitely seems like it. In Australia, at least, I am seeing job ads from recruiters with titles like "AI Engineer" or asking for "LLM-assisted development" or "agentic development" and so on.

    I noticed that some of these roles come from businesses that recently had layoffs and were now asking their staff to "do more with less" so not exactly places people would be eager to work at, unless they have to.

    I don't know if this is the new norm but this craziness is not helped by the increase in the number of "AI influencers" pushing the hype. Unfortunately, I've been seeing this on HN a lot recently.

  • dlivingstonan hour ago
    We do not interview for this nor care about it, despite using agentic and code complete tooling heavily. It's not a deep technical skill like C++ that requires years of hands-on experience. Spend a few weeks getting comfortable with Claude Code and you're probably at about parity with most devs. That seems like sort of a red flag to me to have that as a job requirement.
  • fatih-erikli-cg24 minutes ago
    I think recruiters would like to see what candidates will do when get some free time. It is not really a lifestyle. It is a short amount of time. Maybe couple of weekends, before they get some other work or get laid off.

    E.g., Nobody wants to continue working with someone who create sound effects, movie player, operating system, etc.

  • David-Brug-Ai18 minutes ago
    In 2026 this is being replaced by agent co-ordination. So the requirement becomes - experience co-ordinating multiple coding and or chat models in a long project spread over multiple machines.
  • tracerbulletx28 minutes ago
    Its a valuable tool that I'd argue everyone is still figuring out how to do it well and the best practices keep changing rapidly. Even more so than everyone was figuring out how to do software well in the first place. Almost all of the best practices are made up, not validated, and kind of magical thinking.
  • ziml77an hour ago
    I couldn't imagine wanting to hire someone who doesn't use LLMs for coding unless they are bringing something very special to the table. It accelerates many coding tasks significantly. But you have to know the limitations to use them efficiently and that only comes with experience.
  • tehlikean hour ago
    Building software with llm is easier than you imagine. I'd be surprised if you just don't pick it up. No need to lie, just open codex or claude and give it a try.
  • akerl_2 hours ago
    I'd say that a this point, if your job involves computers and you aren't at least familiar with how you can leverage AI tools, you're basically admitting that you really enjoy the art of working with one hand tied behind your back.

    That's not vibe coding. Imagine if you were hiring a chef and a candidate came in who'd never used a stove. Sure, technically there are other ways to heat food, but it would be a bit odd.

    • yfwan hour ago
      lol what. This is more like a chef who reheats tv dinners and sometimes taste them in case theres mold
  • bitwize10 minutes ago
    Agentic AI-assisted coding is an intrinsic part of the job now. Companies would be leaving lots of money on the table if they didn't take advantage of the 10x/50x/100x productivity gains. If you don't have the skills, learn. Shape up or ship out.
  • techblueberryan hour ago
    I think AI assisted coding is a new job requirement, and I think the more I do it the more I’m convinced it’s going to wreck productivity. And it’s not because these tools aren’t as good as people say they are, it’s because they’re too good.

    Everyone talking about vibe coding all your dependencies and the problem is that the people who are good with these tools and do get 50% or greater productivity benefits won’t be able to empathize with the people who are bad with these tools and create all the slop.

    I think AI encourages people to take side quests to solve easy problems and not focus on hard problems.

    That without domain expertise problems will compound themselves. But I dunno, I agree that they’re here to stay.

  • teeray2 hours ago
    In fact, they want 10 years of vibe coding experience
    • fatih-erikli-cg15 minutes ago
      They want people who not get scared of getting their hands dirty. There is something like perfectionism trap. It is very difficult to manage that.
    • al_borland32 minutes ago
      The old copy/paste from StackOverflow was essentially vibe coding, it just took a bit more effort. I saw plenty of people Google their way to code that technically worked, without having any idea how or why.

      If someone has been doing that for 10 years and learning nothing, that would be a huge red flag. One that will likely become more common has LLM usage increases.

    • nitink23an hour ago
      hey 10 years for a junior position your going to need like 25 years for a senior level position.