199 pointsby peq423 hours ago13 comments
  • gruez2 hours ago
    From the source

    >I'm disclosing a list containing the details of 6,681 organizations that applied for contracts with the US Department of Homeland Security. This data was taken from the Office of Industry Partnership at https://oip.dhs.gov.

    Contrary to the title this doesn't seem like all contractors? 6681 contractors in total seems a bit low for an agency as big as DHS.

    • dragonwriter2 hours ago
      It seems like that it is all contracts managed by the the Office of Industry Partnerships, within DHS's Science and Technology Directorate, which exists, per its website, to "engage industry and facilitate partnerships with private sector innovators to advance commercial technology solutions that address homeland security challenges."

      This is consistent with the explorer having a drop down filter for "Program" with options exactly matching three of the four programs listed as OIP programs o their webpage, excluding "Targeted Broad Agency Announcements”, which from the description OIP participates in but are specifically for some other particular DHS component (which, might handles the actual contracting, which would explain why the data wasn't in the OIP leak, OTOH, the list of current opportunities in that category on the web is empty, so its possible that it is a category that exists in theory but is not actively being used currently.)

      This is very much not all DHS contracts, and even the claim that it is "ICE/DHS" contracts seems mostly misleading clickbait trading on the degree of attention to and awareness of ICE even though these contracts are through and for a non-ICE component of DHS.

      • tptacek2 hours ago
        Kind of wish you'd written this as a top comment.
    • ramoz2 hours ago
      It's missing data for sure - at least on the awarded side. (Which is easy to vet because it's all public)

      https://www.usaspending.gov/search?hash=181b0ab9a8cc9f30fbed...

  • epistasis2 hours ago
    Shouldn't contractors for ICE/DHS be completely public?

    What sort of US government organization hides its contractors?

    • armsaw2 hours ago
      Seems like, the kind that will award a $70 million contract to a guy with a hotmail address.
    • afavour2 hours ago
      The same one that hides its agents behind masks.
      • whynotmaybe2 hours ago
        I was going to say that often prison warden hide their true identities within the prison and then I realized the sad irony in what I was thinking.
    • WatchDog2 hours ago
      If it's not already public data, this seems like the sort of thing you could probably get legally by filing a FOIA request.
    • ramoz2 hours ago
      It is all public.
  • imadethis2 hours ago
    Definitely not all contractors, my company at the very least used to have a contract with ICE and isn’t listed.
  • mx7zysuj4xew2 hours ago
    whoever is involved with this know that future generations will curse you for it

    Automatically identifying person-based characteristics is helpful in variety of industries for threat detection. The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is interested in a video analysis tool that can automatically identify and catalog anthropometric characteristics that are important to On-Person Screening in real time. Toyon Research Corporation proposes to tackle this problem by breaking it into main parts to solve. First, the task of initially localizing and describing airline passenger characteristics can be framed as an object detection problem. Second, the task of tracking airline passengers across a video stream once the characteristics have been initially identified can be done through traditional tracking algorithms that have the ability to run in real-time.

  • bananamogul2 hours ago
    I clicked on a random one. My fellow taxpayers spent $825,000 for this shit.

    "The human body is a near perfect energy generator. Demand for energy harvesting innovation, along with technology advances in thin film thermoelectric generators and highly efficient DC/DC boost circuitry now place wearable thermoelectric power harvesting within reach. The objective of Perpetua`s Phase II proposal is to deliver an energy harvesting system for first responder applications powered by the human body. Building on Perpetua`s successful demonstration of wearable thermoelectric generators in Phase I, this proposal combines advances in wearable thermoelectric generators, power electronics, ultra low power transceivers, and physiological sensors integrated into a first responder jacket. In collaboration with emergency response personnel, Perpetua will field test the developed jackets. Building on several decades of experience with thermoelectric generators, system design and product integration, Perpetua will architect modular systems for wearable body energy harvesting. Perpetua`s creative approach with best-in-class technology overcomes the traditional obstacles that have prevented energy harvesting from the human body to produce adequate voltage and usable power. Wearable human body thermoelectric generators promise power solutions for autonomous self-powered sensors reducing the weight, size, and limited life of primary battery power. Long life and small dimensions are particularly important and advantageous for sensor systems for the first responder."

    • tdeck2 hours ago
      Critical support to the folks bilking ICE with absurd R&D investments. Maybe CBP can install solar freakin' roadways at their roadside checkpoints too.
    • zoklet-enjoyeran hour ago
      Reminds me of when I tried charging a phone with piezos in my insoles like 15 years ago. Should have applied for a grant
    • vlovich1232 hours ago
      Why is it shit? Sounds like having your body power the electronics of your gear which isn’t insane. It’s technically difficult to get a lot of energy out but out of hand it’s not crazy. And phase ii sounds like they’ve met the previous milestone and are proposing the next iteration.
      • korhojoaan hour ago
        I'm curious about the usability of the clothing. Who wants to wear clothes that actively cool you when you're in a cold environment, or heat you when you're in a hot environment?
  • kevincloudsec2 hours ago
    $70 million to a guy with a hotmail address and they couldn't keep the vendor list off the internet. but sure, trust them with biometric databases.
  • john_strinlai2 hours ago
    a lot of these company names are kind of hilariously non-descript. no smart wordplay, no chance of coming up with a good jingle for a commercial. exactly what you would expect, really.

    "Science Applications International Corp"

    "Radiation Monitoring Devices Inc"

    "Physical Optics Corp"

    "Physical Sciences Inc"

    "Applied Nanotech Inc"

    edit: this is a light hearted comment. i am not saying your favorite non-descriptly-named company is worse than any other name.

    • bathtub3652 hours ago
      There’s an interesting talk that relates to this: Trevor Paglen’s “Seeing the Secret State: Six Landscapes”[0]. He investigates some of the front companies involved in the CIA’s extraordinary rendition program. They mostly have unassuming names, presumably by design.

      [0]: https://youtu.be/lvEMSRKniWk

    • ramoz2 hours ago
      The first one is literally a well-known massive corporation
      • john_strinlai2 hours ago
        >The first one is literally a well-known massive corporation

        i am sorry, i really must have messed up in my comment somewhere. on top of not trying to insult these companies by saying they have non-descript names, i was also not trying to imply that they are small.

        non-descript, and what i expected of government contractor names. thats all.

    • zoklet-enjoyer2 hours ago
      That's what I did when I created a hemp company in 2019. And then I registered a dba (doing business as) with the real name. It made banking easier.
    • foxglacier2 hours ago
      The cover is a strange thing to judge a book by. SAIC isn't somehow worse because they couldn't think of a witty name 60 years ago. IBM couldn't either, nor General Motors. Basic descriptive names are actually pretty good compared to meaningless "Meta" or "Google" that have no idea what industry they even want to appear to be in.
      • john_strinlai2 hours ago
        >SAIC isn't somehow worse because they couldn't think of a witty name 60 years ago.

        is "non-descript" an insult now, or something? where do you read "worse" in my comment?

        • dekhnan hour ago
          Your comment reads as negative about the corporations even if that's not what you intended. There's something about the way it's reads (I noticed myself when I read your comment, then noticed your edit at the bottom). Nuance usually does not translate well on the internet.
    • andrewmcwatters2 hours ago
      International Business Machines…

      Minnesota Mining and Manufacturing Company

      General Mills

      General Motors

      American Telephone and Telegraph Company…

      You seem to have it backwards. Companies being called Poopity Scoop is a modern phenomenon.

      Companies have otherwise been named like this for centuries.

      • john_strinlai2 hours ago
        i havent heard a good jingle for any of those

        (i didnt make the judgement you think i made. i simply said they are what i expected: very non-descript)

  • standwportugul2 hours ago
    Hey while we're at it, here's Y Combinator's list of defense startups it funds :) :) :)

    https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/industry/defense

    • b82 hours ago
      DAIVIN! is a waste. Rebreathers exist for a reason and are better suited for tactical underwater ops.
    • NewJazz2 hours ago
      Wow they are still calling it defense in the year of our overlord, 80?
  • reactordev2 hours ago
    Hate to see it but I understand why. Surprised it took this long.
  • KittenInABox2 hours ago
    I'm a bit confused by claiming that this is confidential information. I thought contract awards were public? Would someone who is more in this space be willing to explain what actually was leaked here?
    • ramoz2 hours ago
      If the data includes every contractor that competed for an award & lost, that is data is typically not public.
  • supadenko2 hours ago
    Looks like some universities are there too. UC SanDiego and USC.
  • Drunkfoowl2 hours ago
    [dead]
  • protocolture2 hours ago
    Good.