25 pointsby rawgabbit4 hours ago10 comments
  • paxys3 hours ago
    > The tech industry often talks about “the cloud” as though it were something abstract and untouchable. But the cloud runs on data centers, those data centers have an address, and that address can be hit by a drone.

    Nominating this as the best opening line I have read in a while.

    • newsclues3 hours ago
      Information and logistics win wars, and you need lots of compute and storage in a modern war.
    • journal3 hours ago
      HN could post the IP address of commenters but they wont.
      • imglorp3 hours ago
        People used to add contact info in their .signature files (!): HTTP, IRC, (etc) and ICBM...
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  • paxys3 hours ago
    Striking public infrastructure is the oldest kind of war there is.

    The article does raise an important question though - would an AWS data center be considered a civilian target or military?

  • whackernews4 hours ago
    A new kind of war where people won’t be able to get next day delivery on the 5m USB-C cable that they ordered.
    • andrew_gs3 hours ago
      Or can't withdraw money from their FAB bank accounts as it's dependent on AWS infra. This is pretty much entirely to do with AWS and not the retail website.
    • fastball3 hours ago
      That is... not what AWS data centers are primarily used for in 2026.
      • whackernews3 hours ago
        You mean they’re not used to sell me cheap Chinese USB-C cables?
        • esseph2 hours ago
          AWS is also running government, military, medical, university etc systems. Banking.
    • dragonwriter3 hours ago
      Yes, Amazon Retail being the sole significant customer of AWS, I guess?
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    • samrus3 hours ago
      Bro thinks amazon is the onky thing that uses AWS
  • prepend3 hours ago
    Isn’t this just Iran trying to hit anything “of value” and it really a strategic target? I doubt they are thinking things through vs just firing off semi randomly.
    • perfmode3 hours ago
      When resources are finite and require precise guidance, why would they fire semi randomly when they can be strategic?
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  • trhway3 hours ago
    Buying an antidrone and even antimissile system like say Pantsir-S1, Skyranger 30 or similar is just few million dollars - peanuts compare to the cost of the datacenter to be protected. Once AMAZN starts doing it for themselves, they will possibly also start air-defense-as-a-service using spare capacity.

    With all the money and assets and the whole value of business, the Big Tech has already started to move into energy, and i think the defense, starting with self-defense, will be among the nearest-future next domains they will move into.

    • OneMorePerson2 hours ago
      I dunno about defense as a service since those are pretty short range systems you mentioned (how would someone go "buy" excess capacity), but datacenters already cluster around common resources (water, etc.) so group buying some equipment to put in a ring around the datacenter area seems like it would be what they do.

      Yeah the use consumer grade rocket components made SpaceX become viable compared to bloated rocket companies. Short range anti missile systems are not large ordinance, they rely a lot on technology for tracking targeting, and they are not a "weapon" (as in they prevent damage not cause it except inadvertently) so it actually seems like something pretty feasible for a tech company. Build it with consumer grade hardware and you could deploy a ton of them.

      • etrautmannan hour ago
        On a mobile platform though…

        Rentable defense is already a thing, but rapidly deployable mini-interceptors like Anduril and many others, or electronic countermeasures could plausibly become much more widespread.

        • trhwayan hour ago
          >electronic countermeasures could plausibly become much more widespread.

          don't forget the amount of power available in the datacenter. You can easily redirect say just mere megawatts to electronic countermeasures (would shut everything around down) or microwave and laser weapons. That for example is just 60KWt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvQV7Mt02q4

    • mc33013 hours ago
      If everyone has an antidrone/antimissile system, then everyone will finally be safe.
      • trhway3 hours ago
        the previous world order based on sovereign states is quickly coming to end. Emerging world order is based on force, and the large corps have more money than many states. The only thing they are missing is the rights of a sovereign entity. Well in a world order driven by force, the rights you have is the rights that you've obtained by force. I think we'll soon see, by analogy with corporate personhood, some version of corporate statehood.
  • YVoyiatzis3 hours ago
    WTF are Amazon’s data centers doung in the UAE? Excuse my ignorance, but why there?
    • achille3 hours ago

        - local data residency & sovereignty
        - latency
        - bandwidth 
        - regulatory climate
        - competition
      
      uae is business friendly

      all cloud providers have middle east presence

      refineries generate terabytes of sensor data per hour

      the population and people there produce and consume a lot of data

    • samrus3 hours ago
      Latency
      • unsnap_biceps3 hours ago
        I would image data sovereignty is also a big factor.
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