9 pointsby tartoran4 hours ago1 comment
  • klipt2 hours ago
    Male only conscription. Meaning no bodily autonomy for men.
    • pinkmuffinere2 hours ago
      Why does male only conscription imply no bodily autonomy for men?
      • klipt2 hours ago
        The government forcing you to put your body in harm's way is the opposite of bodily autonomy.
        • pinkmuffinerean hour ago
          I think I disagree with the claim that this implies _no_ bodily autonomy. People are often compelled to do certain things -- you can be forced to go to court cases/jury duty/jail, to get a vaccines (if you want to attend public school), to stay seated on a flight, etc. These are reductions in autonomy, but I don't think they are complete eliminations. Mandatory military service for n years is a reduction, but I don't think an elimination of bodily autonomy.

          That said, I do prefer true equality before law, and if mandatory service is required, I'd prefer to have mandatory service for _everybody_, not just men.

          • asksomeoneelsean hour ago
            There is a significant difference between jury duty and military service when it comes to risks and bodily harm. Equating the two as both being "reductions" is absurdly missing the point.
            • pinkmuffinerean hour ago
              I'm not equating them. Military service is a much bigger reduction. But it doesn't seem fair to call it a complete elimination of bodily autonomy -- that's my main claim.
        • ranger_dangeran hour ago
          They're not forcing you, you can register as a conscientious objector.