14 pointsby scblzn7 hours ago3 comments
  • soal6 hours ago
    «ARBITRATION NOTICE. Except for certain kinds of disputes described in Section 15.2 (Dispute Resolution and Arbitration), you agree that disputes arising under these Terms will be resolved by binding, individual arbitration, and BY ACCEPTING THESE TERMS, YOU AND ZED ARE EACH WAIVING THE RIGHT TO A TRIAL BY JURY OR TO PARTICIPATE IN ANY CLASS ACTION OR REPRESENTATIVE PROCEEDING. ALTERNATIVELY, CUSTOMER MAY OPT OUT OF ARBITRATION PER SECTION 17.2(a).»

    It's awful.

    • tripplyons6 hours ago
      The good thing is you can still use their software without signing in and having to agree.
    • goodmythical6 hours ago
      Well shit, alternatives?
      • soal6 hours ago
        Oh, cmon, code editors are plenty. I read this in my inbox and uninstalled Zed. It's not my main editor though.
        • logicprog4 hours ago
          Judging from the opt out section and other parts of the ToS it seems pretty clear to me that most of the terms only apply (including the arbitration clause) to if you're using their online services. I don't get what the big hooha is about
  • theherk4 hours ago
    Binding arbitration is the most sure fired sign of an organization that hates its users and is fully against the rule of law and the rights of consumers. What a deeply disappointing development.

    I’d rather an organization kick puppies and kidnap babies than implement binding / opt OUT arbitration. I’m so irritated by this. It is the first major misstep by the organization and unfortunately makes you about as honorable as Microsoft.

    Absolutely galled.

    I hope there will be a hard fork that is properly maintained and doesn’t hate its users.

  • ValueNull6 hours ago
    > Age requirement. You must be 18 or older to use the Service.

    Terrible rule, even if effectively unenforceable.

    • 29 minutes ago
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    • keernan3 hours ago
      >>You must be 18 or older to use the Service.

      I suspect this is because minors cannot normally be legally bound by contracts they sign.