94 pointsby geox8 hours ago12 comments
  • thatfrenchguy6 hours ago
    Half of the best engineers I know come from a random state school, from a random country, and we should work way harder than we do on finding those people.

    But also… the other half come from prestigious colleges, and the way you solve the first half is not by not hiring the second half.

    • SideQuark4 hours ago
      Hiring costs time, money, and other engineers time and effort. Wasting money and time reviewing a pool with less good candidates will simply lose you business over time, as you waste more resources to obtain the same result.
      • pyuser5832 hours ago
        Are American universities really turning out engineers with high GPAs and relevant coursework that are unqualified? Or even create a disadvantage for their employer?

        I mean realistically you don’t know how good an engineer is until they get on projects and you see their work. But that’s true for Harvard too,

  • AreShoesFeet0005 hours ago
    This is a plain admission that the administration has lost on the merits of their arguments.
  • euio7576 hours ago
    Interestingly, Dartmouth, UPenn, and Cornell aren't on the Cancelled Senior Service College (SSC) Fellowships list. So this is some select Ivy Leagues only.
    • altairprime4 minutes ago
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    • MengerSponge5 hours ago
      Maybe they like Cornell's existing military affiliation?

      Meredith: You know, I once dated a couple of guys from Cornell. They were really nice, gave me a ride home.

      Andy: I seriously doubt anyone from Cornell dated you.

      Creed: It's pronounced "colonel." It's the highest rank in the military.

      Andy: It's pronounced Cornell! It's the highest rank in the Ivy league.

      • pyuser5832 hours ago
        Cornell guys are assholes. I know this from experience. I hope it’s changed, but doubt it has.
  • floatrock4 hours ago
    Remember when the Oppenheimer movie taught us how we got The Bomb even though the nazis had a significant head start because ze germans got rid of the smart people studying "jew physics" and what was left of their science took them to dead ends?

    Replace "jew physics" with "woke physics" and you see the idiocy of this.

    Foot, meet gun.

    • pyuser5832 hours ago
      That was not my takeaway from the Oppenheimer movie.

      Or from … history.

      The Germans chose to extremely underinvest in their nuclear program to maintain financial and political support for their rocket program.

      The rocket program was so fundamentally different from the Manhattan Project it’s hard to see the Germans doing anything like it.

    • conception3 hours ago
      Fascism always trends to incompetency because loyalty is more important than skill and knowledge.
      • Aeolun8 minutes ago
        So it’s just a matter of time before the US crashes?
  • smallerize7 hours ago
    Hegseth has degrees from Princeton and Harvard. The Vice President has a degree from Yale. Trump himself graduated from Wharton, one of the Ivy League business schools (although not one directly names in the memo).
    • pragmatic6 hours ago
      Maybe they are right to block these institutions then?

      If this is the quality of product produced what’s the point?

      Our Harvard/Stanford etc management seemed less capable than products of state schools. It kind of shocked me as I thought once I got into startups and scaleups with Ivy League talent I’d be way over my head. Very much a let down.

      • oefrha5 hours ago
        I feel attacked as a Stanford/Princeton graduate. Yes, there are pieces of shit among the graduates, especially among the legacy admissions, but you can’t write off all of us by association.
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      • kevin_thibedeau5 hours ago
        They network their way to the top. Everybody else has to develop real skills.
  • alephnerd7 hours ago
    The actual announcement - https://media.defense.gov/2026/Feb/27/2003881802/-1/-1/1/ALI...

    I've TFed and CAed for SSC fellows eons ago and the fact is UMich (especially the International Institute [0]), VT (CETS [1] and CGIT [2]), ASU (GSI [3] and CAPS [4]), and UNC (ASC [5], ISA [6], CES [7], and TISS [8]) remain great programs and tend to be fairly liberal.

    Surprised TAMU wasn't included.

    Edit: can't reply

    > and lo and behold

    Yep, but everyone who's an SSC will self-select for Mich, UNC, ASU, and VT. SSC fellows are smart and are gunning for top exit opps in the public and private sector. Hillsdale, Regent, and Liberty don't offer that and would limit career options as they are deeply ideological programs.

    [0] - https://ii.umich.edu/ii/about-us/centers-programs.html

    [1] - https://liberalarts.vt.edu/research-centers/ceuts.html

    [2] - https://www.cgit.vt.edu/index.html

    [3] - https://nationalsecurity.asu.edu/

    [4] - https://www.capsresearch.org/

    [5] - https://africa.unc.edu/

    [6] - http://isa.unc.edu/

    [7] - https://europe.unc.edu/

    [8] - https://tiss-nc.org/

    • diek7 hours ago
      My first reaction was, "watch, they're going to replace actual rigorous educational institutions with religious colleges" and lo and behold, "Liberty University" is at the top of the list for replacement civilian institutions.
      • cma6 hours ago
        Religious schools have long had the strongest cancel culture out there.
      • MengerSponge5 hours ago
        "One of these things is not like the other, one of these things just doesn't belong. Find which thing is not like the other by the time I finish this song!"
  • Short_tend5 hours ago
    As someone enrolled in an IVY and seeing the absurd speculation by random commenter's, this is ridiculous. I can only speak for Columbia, but the amount of work & study we do all for this country is immense. EVEN if you are partisan you should know there are RW or neoliberal elements active here. Our country and the many young people who want to be in public service will suffer from this.

    And no, we are not whatever random ragebait curated LW “WOKE” that’s protrayed online.

  • paxys7 hours ago
    Too much willingness to disobey unlawful orders from the "woke left" I assume
    • craftkiller7 hours ago
      The list of replacements institutions from the memo states at the bottom:

      > These institutions meet the following criteria: intellectual freedom, minimal relationships with adversaries, minimal public expressions in opposition of the Department, and Graduate-level National Security, International Affairs, and/or Public Policy Programs.

      So it is definitely political and not based on merit.

      • fungel6 hours ago
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        • galleywest2006 hours ago
          This is just made up bullshit. Pete could list this info with examples but instead just hand-waved excuses.
          • fungel6 hours ago
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            • fn-mote6 hours ago
              Making these excuses is unreal.
    • alephnerd7 hours ago
      Then UMich - a notably Dem leaning govt program - wouldn't be included.

      Personally, I remember taking Fairbanks Center associated classes and noticing how we have the children of Chinese VVIPs sitting next to active duty members.

      It sparked interesting conversations, but seeing someone who was a test pilot at Hanford sitting next to a scion of a Red Family was interesting to say the least.

      The program also absolutely did used to publicly give advice to the CCP at the time, and on the listservs I'm still on I do still see publicly pronounced UFWD members responding and posting events in the Boston area.

      Ofc, if I noticed this then it was absolutely known to three-letter agencies and State, and some of the institutions included are part of a larger culture war, but there is a kernel of truth - too many children of various countries dignitaries attended the program.

      Edit: can't reply

      > I think isolationism amongst the war party is less helpful than some degree of interaction

      UMich isn't an isolationist program though - it's a program which imo is the closest to how foreign policy was managed under the Obama admin.

      • ggm7 hours ago
        Noting that we have always been at war with Eurasia, given we actually are not at war with Eurasia, would it not be both normal and sensible to at least know your Eurasian counterparts?

        I think isolationism amongst the war party is less helpful than some degree of interaction.

      • ricksunny5 hours ago
        You casually drop a lot of acronyms and references to obscure programs (here and especially in parallel comment) on the apparent assumption that everyone reading does or should be clued in to the same acronyms. I feel you do so in good faith, but I wonder where the implicit assumption comes from that the 'rest of society' ('rest' w.r..t. whatever sub-group does in fact know about these programs intimately) ought to know what this sub-group knows.
  • peteykegsbreath7 hours ago
    Hegseth went to Princeton and Harvard, FYI
    • stockresearcher7 hours ago
      • Esophagus45 hours ago
        > Harvard itself is an incredibly inequitable place. Student organizations — and undergraduate social life more broadly — have been criticized for being stacked heavily against those without connections. And perhaps most insidious is Harvard’s unwavering preference for so-called ALDCs – athletes, legacies, dean’s interest list, and children of faculty and staff. Without dismantling our own elitism, how can Harvard begin to fight the product of it?

        Yep. I was never more proud of my alma mater than when they announced they would no longer give preferential treatment to legacy students (students of alumni). Legacy students alone make up 1/3 of Harvard’s accepted students. (I’d say that’s an embarrassment, but for Harvard that’s a feature not a bug.)

        The same way people in power will always cling to the advantages power gives them, afraid of starting from the same place as everyone else for fear they won’t make it on their merits alone.

        • pyuser583an hour ago
          I don’t feel the same. My own alma mater is a niche school. It officially gives admissions pref to legacies, but unofficially depends on parents sending their kids as the school is not well known.

          Harvard on the other hand - people go to Harvard to become elite. That only works because they get to hobnob with princes and the like. Thats the point.

          The Ivy’s do a good job of admitting non-elite students. I’m glad that pathway to eliteness is there.

          I’m proud of my small liberal arts Alma mater. I have no desire to network with billionaires and princes (as opposed to say, brilliant engineers and researchers).

          But I’m glad the legacies at Harvard are sharing a classroom with kids from Appalachia. And that only happens if you get in the legacies.

  • tty4564 hours ago
    Yeah, thats smart. /s
  • AIorNot5 hours ago
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    • engineer_225 hours ago
      Did you use AI to write an HN comment?
    • jdosjskg4 hours ago
      > Independent institutions are weakened or dismantled.

      Trump filed massive frivolous lawsuits against law firms, colleges, financial first and other business entities. Most fell in line with a few exceptions.

      > Courts are subordinated to the executive.

      The courts broadly have not fallen, but there are judges that are purely partisan (Eileen Canon, the dude who sighed the Georgia search warrant). Given enough time the courts will fall.

      > Regional governments lose autonomy.

      Trump has begun putting pressure on blue states by withholding money. Ice was dispatched to Minneapolis to show everyone what will happen to those that defy him. Local government is still mostly safe, but give it time.

      > Legislatures either become rubber stamps or are dissolved.

      We'll see what happens in the midterms.

      > Emergency powers are often invoked and then made permanent.

      IEEPA comes to mind. But his invasions emergencies too.

      > Second, they eliminate political opposition. Rival parties are banned.

      The midterms may be the last chance before opposition is either banned or entirely impossible.

      > Opposition leaders are jailed, exiled, or killed.

      Charges against political opponents like Leticia James, Adam Schiff, James Comey. Broadly thrown out for now, but if the courts fall this will happen. ICE has been charging protestors with bullshit charges constantly.

      > Trade unions are dissolved or absorbed into state-controlled structures.

      Businesses accomplished this years ago on their own.

      > Elections, if they continue, become symbolic rather than competitive.

      Midterms. We'll see

      > Third, they cultivate loyalty to a single leader. The regime builds a personality cult around a figure presented as the embodiment of the nation. Loyalty shifts from constitution and law to the leader personally. Oaths of allegiance are often rewritten to bind military, civil servants, and professionals directly to that individual.

      This is just MAGA. I don't believe oaths have been changed yet.

      > Fourth, they fuse nationalism with identity politics. The state defines a “true people” and casts minorities, dissidents, or outsiders as internal enemies. This often leads to discriminatory laws and, in extreme cases, ethnic cleansing or genocide, as occurred under Adolf Hitler.

      Rise of white Christian nationalism, branding of protestors/opposition as domestic terrorists.

      > Fifth, they control information. Independent media is suppressed or co-opted. Propaganda becomes a primary governing tool.

      Bari Weiss reshaping CBS, Bezos reshaping wapo, Sinclair media refusing to air Jimmy Kimmel, Brendan Carr threatening licenses for speech. Every single thing trump does on twitter and truth social.

      > Education systems are reshaped to reinforce ideology. Culture, art, and science are pressured to align with the state narrative.

      DOGE cancelling grants for non approved research. Integration of Turning Point USA into schools.

      > Sixth, they militarize society. Paramilitary groups are normalized or integrated into state power.

      ICE.

      > Public life adopts martial symbols and rhetoric.

      Not much, but soon.

      > Foreign policy often becomes expansionist, framed as reclaiming national greatness.

      Greenland, Venezuela, Iran.

      > Seventh, they restructure the economy around state direction and political loyalty. Private property may remain formally intact, but major industries operate in alignment with state priorities. Business leaders who cooperate are rewarded; those who resist are sidelined or punished.

      Anthropic/openai drama this week, golden shares in US Steel, Nvidia export controls, tariffs.

      > The through-line is loyalty over legality. Institutions stop being neutral frameworks and become instruments of the ruling ideology. The regime reframes dissent as treason and criticism as sabotage.

      If you don't see this you're not paying attention.

      One thing not mentioned is blatant massive corruption, nepotism, cronyism. We see that every single day.

      Thanks for the list.

  • busterarm7 hours ago
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