"Cancel ChatGPT" movement goes mainstream after OpenAI closes deal with U.S. Dow(www.windowscentral.com)

132 pointsby AndrewKemendo4 hours ago11 comments

avaer3 hours ago
> There are no virtuous participants in the artificial intelligence race
A bit of an insulting way to start the article.
Plenty of researchers and smaller companies would disagree, but they won't get articles written about them because they're not embroiled in DOW killbot drama.
We might not be in this situation if all of this money was given to them instead.
- Terr_3 hours ago
  In a similar vein, a shout out to all my software homies out there who are just trying to fix data entry input field bugs instead of constructing the Torment Nexus.
- JohnTHalleran hour ago
  The AI race refers to the big companies that through shady tactics are currently in the 'lead'. None of them are virtuous.
ssl-33 hours ago
"DOW" here is an acronym for Department of War, and really should be fully capitalized in the title.
- Svip3 hours ago
  It's also still the Department of Defense; only Congress can change its name, and they haven't.
  - ssl-33 hours ago
    The article's title says "Department of War".
    (I didn't write the title.)
- marginalia_nu3 hours ago
  Yeah title is currently likely to be interpreted as Dow Jones.
  - cls593 hours ago
    Or Dow Chemical.
- Retric3 hours ago
  DoW or more accurately DoD like WoW is less ambiguous than fully capitalized.
  - ssl-32 hours ago
    I considered the small "o". But the precedent for US government TLAs seems to be to capitalize the whole thing: https://www.justice.gov/nsd-ovt/us-government-acronym-list
    Retrican hour ago
    Capitalizing everything is the new direction, but I doubt it’s going to stick around. There’s a long legacy of DoD vs DOW, for a current military example that wasn’t updated: https://dodtap.mil/dodtap/app/about/DoDTAP
    Here the DoD pattern makes it clear what part of the larger acronym is representing.
- thatcatan hour ago
  wouldn't it be DoW, like DoD?
siva73 hours ago
Says windowscentral.com... People outside of Big Tech haven't heard of Anthropic nor do they care about this dispute. What normal poeple might have heard is probably more something along the lines of Anthropic and supply-chain-risk and unpatriotic...
- 3rodents3 hours ago
  The top post on Reddit is about it, it has escaped the nerdsphere.
  - siva73 hours ago
    Reddit is an algorithm-based aggregator so of course it will show some hn dude also the same nerd stuff
    delecti2 hours ago
    Reddit's "hot" algorithm (the default view in most contexts) is not persomalized. It's basically just the rate of upvotes.
    siva72 hours ago
    Sure? I visited Reddit just now and i don't even know how to get to this non-personalized algo. At least they make a really good job to hide this view as good as possible so i doubt it's the default view for most logged users.
    delecti2 hours ago
    That's my point, you don't generally have to "do" anything to get to "hot". If you open a /r/all or an individual subreddit, the default view is the "hot" algorithm.
- mi_lk3 hours ago
  > People outside of Big Tech haven't heard of Anthropic
  "Claude by Anthropic" is currently #2 Top Free App in US App Store
  - siva72 hours ago
    According to the US App Store a rule-based proxy utility is the #1 paid app. So not sure how much relevance the App store charts have at all in real life.
    xienze2 hours ago
    I think you're both right. Prior to the other day, Claude had nowhere near as much mindshare with regular people as ChatGPT did. But now that they've stood up to Orange Man, they're heroes to a large segment of the population who would otherwise have never given them a second thought.
    On a related note, since OpenAI is playing ball with Orange Man, they're public enemy #1 for this same segment, hence the calls to cancel subscriptions and boycott OpenAI.
    By this time next week, most people will have forgotten about all of this.
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hbarka2 hours ago
Dario Amodei direct interview today on CBS News:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPTNHrq_4LU
jedberg3 hours ago
It’s DoD. It’s still not officially changed. But if you insist on using the nickname it should be DoW.
firefoxd3 hours ago
One thing to take into account, this will now be a large source of revenue for them. You thought you would get away with the free tier, but now as a tax payer, we are all funding it.
nialv7an hour ago
i don't have an openai subscription, but i still want to participate
andy_ppp3 hours ago
I know this is very picky but I find the font choices of Claude quite distracting and difficult to read. I might try Gemini but the Trump admin would probably force Google to sell YouTube to Larry Ellison so they will capitulate. Are any of the Chinese frontier models available on neutral infrastructure?
- delecti3 hours ago
  It seems like Claude's settings let you pick the system font. Is there a reason to not change your system font to something you don't find distracting? It seems like it would have knock-on benefits by making every application less distracting.
  - andy_ppp3 hours ago
    Nice I didn’t know this I’ll give it go then…
- drewolbrich3 hours ago
  There's a Claude settings option to use the system font instead.
- Imustaskforhelp2 hours ago
  > are any of the Chinese frontier models available on neutral infrastructure?
  Yup, Check out Openrouter providers for your particular chinese frontier model/ open weights model in general and you could find the location of all providers who host that model and where they are hosted (US/EU countries etc.) as well.
  You can also change Claude font as others are mentioning.
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system23 hours ago
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- ryandvm3 hours ago
  Find a smarter dog park
  - system22 hours ago
    I tried, this is the most upper-class I could find in LA. Most of the people make over 6 figures and own their own houses. Try to go out and talk to people yourself and let us know your findings. What we are talking about on HN or Reddit does not reflect reality. This is an echo chamber.
- RalfWausE3 hours ago
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  - system22 hours ago
    I doubt others in other countries would even know who owns ChatGPT. People just use it as an app, and they do not care what the U.S. government does with American companies.
journal3 hours ago
I refuse to use anything but OpenAI API.
- hypercube333 hours ago
  I can't tell if this is satire but if not, you're only holding yourself back. It's far from the leading model family for a while now for almost any workload.
Simulacra3 hours ago
This article makes no sense. ChatGPT is a search engine and knowledge base with an anthropomorphic front end. It's Google with human characteristics. I think, IMHO, people take AI way too seriously and see in it a boogeyman to conquer.
- procone3 hours ago
  It is certainly not a "search engine". Perhaps you should do some reading on how LLMs function.
  - Simulacra41 minutes ago
    It is. It pulls it out. Maybe you're too into it.
  - ath3nd2 hours ago
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