US farmers are rejecting multimillion-dollar datacenter bids for their land(www.theguardian.com)
23 pointsby carabiner4 hours ago5 comments
  • dmonitor8 minutes ago
    Somewhat concerning that AI is now competing for resources with our food production.
  • givemeethekeys3 hours ago
    People think of American farmers like they are some poor innocent country bumpkins, instead of what they really are - multi-generational business owners.

    If there is a real deal to be had, they'll be first in line to accept it, regardless of what the spin doctors in the news want you to believe.

    • bigstrat2003an hour ago
      Farmers, like anyone else, are a diverse group of people you can't easily generalize. They are all business owners, sure, but only some are in it primarily for the money. Others feel that it's their responsibility to hang on to the farm passed down through the generations. Still others aren't on an ancestral farm, but love the job for its own sake and wouldn't give it up to build a datacenter no matter how much money they were offered. It just depends.
  • ggm3 hours ago
    Farming is odd, because there's a huge inter-generational phobia about selling the heritage, but there's also a degree of pragmatism (bad year? shoot the cows) going on. And, there's also often a massive debt overhang, tolerated by the system as a whole, because of the boom-and-bust nature of the business. It wouldn't surprise me if a lot of land owners told "$14m for your paddocks" would only see a low value in that, because of the debt overhang.

    It also would not surprise me if a lot of these prices are tail payment, and predicated on the plan getting up, and involve middlemen who are brokering the land up to bigger players in the hyperscaler space. Lots of NDA, not much money up front.

    I would think that there are brownfield ex-factory sites which make more sense.

    Farming is agribusiness is big business. People who are in farming for the long haul. But, if its not a family enterprise (and a lot isn't any more) and if there's a board, and shareholders, then the temptation to cash out and move money to another place is there. So I expect despite all these refusals from one cohort of the farm sector, there's another one which is looking at the merits of this and for the right package, will jump. But they will want a lot more than ag. value per hectare/acre on this, they won't settle for the value as soybeans, they want the value as a multi-billion dollar enterprise outcome.

    I sure hope some of them really are the green heart, who value nature. But I think the story is going to be a lot more multi dimensional than that.

  • SlightlyLeftPad4 hours ago
    If only they knew they could make billions…
  • NedF13 minutes ago
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