36 pointsby Maximilian_Bet6 hours ago8 comments
  • karmakurtisaani13 minutes ago
    This is most definitely a scam. The battery was not verified to be what they claim it is. It could have been ordered from Temu and packaged to a new wrapping. All the testers did was verify something about how it charges and discharges.

    They did not invent in secrecy and zero budget a battery worth a Nobel prize.

    This is a scam.

  • stetrain5 hours ago
    Turning verification of your basic claimed battery specifications into a slow drip PR event is certainly a choice.
    • ikidd2 hours ago
      I'd suspect the next set are charge cycle tests so that will take some time. I was certainly skeptical of the C rate claims and those are quick to do and kick out.
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  • mrtksn5 hours ago
    The fast charging test was released as discussed here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47121864
  • coreyh144445 hours ago
    I'm not a big "pun" guy, but this is smart. Address skeptics head on.
    • stetrain5 hours ago
      Addressing them head on would be providing verification of your claims alongside the initial announcement, not being intentionally vague and then using reasonable skepticism as marketing.
      • cogman105 hours ago
        Addressing the claims one by one is still doing it head on. There's not some logic timeline for this stuff.

        The slow drip of verification is a smart move IMO. It keeps them in the media for longer (Gabbo) and stops them from being lost in the other 1000 different battery announcement. Hopefully getting them funding I'm guessing they need to start full manufacturing.

        That said, while this certainly is a promising battery based on the claims, I won't get my hopes up until there's an actual product I can buy.

      • naasking5 hours ago
        If they did actually achieve something remarkable, giving the skeptics time to bury their own credibility has some advantages.
        • stetrain5 hours ago
          I'm not sure being hesitant to accept claims without evidence is a mark against credibility.

          I think stringing this out certainly has marketing advantages. But I think if they really had this kind of breakthrough they would be focusing on billion-dollar deals with manufacturers to ramp up capacity rather than internet hype marketing.

          • naasking4 hours ago
            > I'm not sure being hesitant to accept claims without evidence is a mark against credibility.

            Some skeptics have gone much further than that, calling the Donut battery impossible.

            The fact that they're taking their time addressing critics might just be an indication that they are making those deals. Time will tell.

            • stetrain4 hours ago
              > The fact that they're taking their time addressing critics might just be an indication that they are making those deals.

              I think if they were doing so then there would not be much point in trying to market to the internet at large.

              • naasking4 hours ago
                They haven't said a peep since CES over a month ago where they very quietly talked about their battery, no big fan fare. They seemed to be keeping a pretty low profile, it was all the YouTubers that started a huge hype train. That drove a lot of understandable skepticism, and now they're getting third party tests done to settle the question, no doubt because some investors got nervous about all the skepticism.
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  • Maximilian_Bet6 hours ago
    This website serves as the platform for publishing validation results and technical documentation related to the Donut Solid State Battery. Donut Lab has commissioned the internationally renowned VTT Technical Research Centre of Finland to conduct independent measurements of the battery’s performance and key characteristics. Unless otherwise stated, all tests presented here have been conducted by VTT. Full reports will be published alongside detailed video documentation that walks through the procedures, showcases the test setups, and explains the results.