Show HN: Klaw.sh – Kubernetes for AI agents(github.com)
40 pointsby eftalyurtseven10 hours ago12 comments
  • umairnadeem1239 minutes ago
    helpful framing: this feels less like k8s itself and more like "fleet ops for agents". k8s solved deploy/observe/isolate for containers, youre mapping that control plane idea to agent workers.

    would be great to add one concrete diagram in the readme (controller, namespace, agent runtime, secret boundary). i think that would remove most confusion in this thread quickly.

  • ed_mercer2 hours ago
    For us, we actually moved away from k8s to dedicated VMs on Proxmox for our agents. We initially had a containerized environment manager running in k8s, but found that VMs give you things containers struggle with: full desktop environments with X11 for GUI automation, persistent state across sessions and dedicated resources per agent. Each agent gets their own Debian VM with a complete OS, which makes it much easier to run tools like xdotool and browser automation that don't play well in containers.
    • indigodaddy17 minutes ago
      Yeah, I feel like k8s is adds unneeded complexity. I started this project to isolate via LXC/Incus containers on a VPS/server. Works nicely for my needs.

      https://github.com/jgbrwn/vibebin

    • mountainriver43 minutes ago
      I got this issue too, but still found that a containerized desktop was superior due to resource efficiency
    • eftalyurtseven2 hours ago
      Makes sense, if your agents need full desktop and GUI automation VMs are the way to go. klaw is more on the headless side, agents talking to APIs, Slack, X, that kind of thing, so the lightweight binary model works. How many agents are you running on Proxmox?
      • ed_mercer2 hours ago
        Ahh, that makes sense. Yeah you likely have a very different business model. We're more using them as "AI employees" that help us with tasks. Currently running 4 of these VMs but planning to add more. Note that each VM has a specific role: cluster monitoring, database stats, frontend/backend features (this is where VMs really shine) and a (very experimental) high-level manager.
    • NewJazzan hour ago
      I have never had an issue with browser automation like selenium in containers. Is that actually an issue?
      • ed_merceran hour ago
        We found that it works great for scraping but it's not so great for development. git worktrees in a VM are much faster over spinning up new containers with an existing codebase.
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  • otterley25 minutes ago
    I know K8S and other software orchestration systems well, but I admit I don't understand this at all. Can someone ELI5?
  • CGamesPlayan hour ago
    This looks like what I want. A few questions: is it possible to have a “mayor” type role that has the ability to start other agents, but at the same time be unable to access those secrets or infiltrate prompt data? The key piece I don’t see is the agent needs a tool for klaw itself, and then I have to be able to configure that appropriately.

    Is there a unified human approval flow, or any kind of UI bundled with this? Maybe I missed this part.

    • eftalyurtsevenan hour ago
      Right now the controller can see secrets across namespaces, so that level of isolation isn’t there yet. It’s on the roadmap though. Namespace-scoped secrets where a controller agent can spawn agents but can’t read their secrets is the right model. No human approval flow yet either, agents create directly. Would you want something like klaw dispatch --approve that queues until a human confirms?
      • CGamesPlay21 minutes ago
        My instinct is that it should be built in to tool calls. So if there was a "klaw dispatch tool", it would have the same approval flow as the "publish draft" tool, which is to say some easy way for a human to review and approve (or provide feedback).
  • f0e4c2f73 hours ago
    Ha! This is great. I've been waiting for someone to make this.

    Giving an LLM a computer makes it way more powerful, giving it a kubernetes cluster should extend that power much further and naturally fits well with the way LLMs work.

    I think this abstraction can scale for a good long while. Past this what do you give the agent? Control of a whole Data Center I guess.

    I'm not sure if it will replace openclaw all together since kubernetes is kind of niche and scary to a lot of people. But I bet for the most sophisticated builders this will become quite popular, and who knows maybe far beyond that cohort too.

    Congrats on the launch!

    • eftalyurtseven3 hours ago
      Thanks! The "Kubernetes is scary" point is fair, that's why the CLI is designed to feel intuitive even if you've never touched kubectl. There's also a controller agent that manages the whole cluster from plain English.

      On "what comes after", I think it's agents managing other agents. An AI SRE that watches load and spins up new agents automatically. The cluster/namespace model was designed with that direction in mind.

      And yeah, not trying to replace OpenClaw, different layer.

      OpenClaw defines what an agent does, klaw manages where and how many run. Complementary.

  • simbleau2 hours ago
    I don’t quite get what makes it Kubernetes for AI agents. Is the idea to pool hardware together to distribute AI agents tasking? Is the idea to sandbox agents in a safe runtime with configuration management? Is the idea something else entirely? Both? I couldn’t figure it out by the README alone.
    • eftalyurtseven2 hours ago
      Mostly the second, plus fleet management. Each agent runs in an isolated namespace with its own config, channels, and skills. You manage them declaratively like you would pods, but the unit of work is an AI agent instead of a container. The Kubernetes analogy is about the operational model: clusters for org isolation, namespaces for team isolation, declarative deploys, central monitoring. Not about hardware scheduling. I'll improve the README to make this clearer, good feedback.
      • fudged712 hours ago
        Is there any current solution elsewhere for hardware scheduling?
        • eftalyurtseven2 hours ago
          Yes, klaw has a controller-node architecture. You join machines to a cluster with klaw node join and deploy agents to specific nodes.

          I added distributed agent management functionality

  • dariusj183 hours ago
    In first read I thought this was an operator for k8s, but it is just comparing itself.to k8s as an orchestration system.
    • eftalyurtseven2 hours ago
      Correct, it's not a k8s operator. Standalone binary, zero dependencies. Just uses the same mental model because clusters and namespaces map really well to multi-team agent management.
      • verdverm34 minutes ago
        There are a number of other aspects that make kubernetes what it is. In particular the API surface is well defined at a very good abstraction level.

        For Ai, I'm using ADK. It's my "kubernetes for agents" from this perspective of abstractions and common task management handled by the system.

        https://google.github.io/adk-docs/get-started/about/

  • hackyhacky33 minutes ago
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  • MrDarcy3 hours ago
    Is this intended to deploy onto k8s?
    • eftalyurtseven3 hours ago
      No, klaw is standalone. It borrows the mental model from Kubernetes (clusters, namespaces, declarative config) but doesn't depend on it. Single binary, runs anywhere.
      • emmelaich19 minutes ago
        You should consider changing the subtitle then. Maybe "Kubernetes-like by AI" or "AI Kubernetes imitation" or ...?
  • canadiantim2 hours ago
    You should consider looking at oh-my-opencode for inspiration (similar to gas town) for how to best orchestrate agents from your controller central brain.

    This looks great though, will definitely give it a try

    • eftalyurtseven2 hours ago
      Thanks, will check it out! Let me know how it goes.
  • benatkin2 hours ago
    In case anyone is interested because "Kubernetes for agents" sounds innovative: https://medium.com/p/welcome-to-gas-town-4f25ee16dd04?source...

    Also, Kubernetes and Gas Town are open source, but this is not.

    Edit: the Medium link doesn't jump down to the highlighted phrase. It's "'It will be like kubernetes, but for agents,' I said."

    • eftalyurtseven2 hours ago
      It is open source: https://github.com/klawsh/klaw.sh

      Also worth noting, Gas Town and klaw solve different problems. Gas Town orchestrates coding agents on a codebase. klaw orchestrates operational agents (social media, support, sales) across teams and platforms. Different layer entirely.

      • trashburgeran hour ago
        It is under a license that prevents using the source in any way you choose:

            You may not use the klaw source code to operate a multi-tenant managed
    service (Software as a Service) where the primary value proposition is
    providing AI agent orchestration capabilities to third parties, unless
    you have obtained explicit written authorization from each::labs.
        It's source-available, which is cool, but don't muddy the waters.
      • benatkin2 hours ago
        Neither in letter (OSI) nor in spirit...
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