69 pointsby tartoran3 hours ago10 comments
  • rich_sasha2 hours ago
    To be honest, by the time they put him up in a prison in Siberia, subjected to sleep deprivation, cold, exhaustion, beatings, lack of medical care, probably terrible food, and other inmates, I'm not sure why they needed clandestine frog poison. Or maybe with all this he was still clinging on?

    There were early reports that he was basically so weakened from such treatment that he went into cardiac arrest after another beating.in the cold, which to my untrained ear sounded completely sufficient. If that wasn't, I'm sure they could find some other inmates and get them to beat Navalny to death, maybe even with some story how they might be crooks but can't stand a traitor. Or something else equally heartwarming.

    Either way, what a lovely country.

  • rdtsc2 hours ago
    > By using this form of poison the Russian state demonstrated the despicable tools it has at its disposal and the overwhelming fear it has of political opposition

    Just like with Litvinenko this is supposed to be traceable back to Russian government. He could have fallen down the stairs or fallen on a knife backwards a few times in a row. This is a message to everyone who wants to defy them.

    • dlahoda2 hours ago
      what evidence do you exactly refer for supposition inclined?
      • gmerc18 minutes ago
        The window safety incident statistics for Moscow ;)
      • sigwinch2 hours ago
        Obviously this is different than Litvinenko. Someone smuggled synthetic venom into a prison in Russia. Was it a failure of Russian security, or a success?
      • rdtsc2 hours ago
        > what evidence do you exactly refer for supposition inclined

        What evidence do you need for supposition?

      • 40 minutes ago
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      • wiseowise2 hours ago
        Bro, lay off the translator. Nobody talks like that, you won’t buy your ticket out of Russia this way.
  • JohnnyLarue2 hours ago
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  • superkuh2 hours ago
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    • odyssey72 hours ago
      The use of exotic means actually places a signature on the work.

      Plausible deniability is avoided, so that a clear example is presented for other would-be challengers.

    • MisterTea2 hours ago
      I was going to post the same but it's not part of this discussion. However, I agree. There are clear parallels.
  • vbezhenar2 hours ago
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  • metalmanan hour ago
    cringe from the russia is the devil give us billions more bunch , wonder which AI ?,came up with frog poison trending up
  • regularization2 hours ago
    Navalny, wasn't that the heroic fighter for human rights who said people from the North Caucucus were cockroaches, then mimicked a gun with his fingers saying what he would like to do with them?

    An obvious hero of western liberals fighting for human rights and democracy.

    How is this cause of death verified? Someone claims they smuggled samples from his body and sent them to two labs in other countries? Sounds like quite a solid and anonymous chain of custody, rock solid proof.

    • sigwinch2 hours ago
      Those are indeed nationalist overtones that work in Russia. Close Western observers don’t ignore Navalny’s early nationalist statements and marches. I wonder if it’s the easiest path out of obscurity nowadays.
  • ipsum22 hours ago
    Why does the UK have the body? Was missing from the article.
    • MisterTea2 hours ago
      It is explained in the article:

      > In September last year, Navalnaya said analysis of smuggled biological samples carried out by laboratories in two countries showed that her husband had been "murdered".

      Did you read it?

    • gib4442 hours ago
      The UK doesn't have the body.
  • azangru2 hours ago
    I was puzzled for a bit about why this was the top story on the BBC right now — after all, they reported on Navalny's death two years ago, and on the results of some laboratory tests suggesting poisoning last September — until I realized that this isn't a story about Navalny, or even about the possible/likely cause of his death, but rather about a statement by the UK Foreign Secretary, that little "UK says" part in the end of the title.
    • sigwinch2 hours ago
      No, this is a joint statement during the Munich Security Conference. Perhaps its timing is useful to remind Kremlin sympathizers about who they’ve chosen to bed.