46 pointsby walterbell7 hours ago5 comments
  • kouteiheika24 minutes ago
    I would give my left kidney for either a continuation or a reboot of Babylon 5 under the helm of J. Michael Straczynski with full creative freedom. Or hell, even an entirely different show.

    In my opinion he's one of the few people in the industry who actually knows how to skillfully write a coherent TV show. And by that I mean: he actually pre-planned the story (spanning multiple seasons!) of B5 right from the beginning, instead of completely making it up on the fly like so many other shows. Subtle things which might seem inconsequential, appearing in the very first season, can foreshadow events happening seasons later. This makes it, at least for me, much more coherent and enjoyable to watch, and I wish more writers/showrunners would adopt this approach (instead of the usual writers' room + only plan until the end of the season approach which is so common today).

  • jefc11113 hours ago
    If you decide to watch Babylon 5 for the first time, I suggest giving it a chance to get under your skin. There is quite a lot to get in the way of that such as mediocre acting, cringey humour, low budget fx (all particularly prominent in season 1). But the pay off in seasons 3 and 4 is huge if you take the time to let affection grow for the characters. Babylon 5 was my first 'favourite series' that 'changed my life' etc etc so I guess I am biased!
    • jeffwaskan hour ago
      I rewatched it last year during an old sci-fi binge, I had watched bits as a kid but never got it. I grew up on TNG and DS9 was my favorite, so I was probably biased.

      It's probably now number 2 for me behind DS9. I watched it again a few month later to catch all the foreshadowing I missed the first time. You are spot on that season 1 is a slow burn that ramps up to the amazing seasons 3 and 4. Best part, it has a clean conclusion without any sequel bait nonsense.

      Londo and Gkar are two of the best characters in Sci-Fi and their relationship is brilliant.

    • account422 hours ago
      Is that disclaimer really needed? As someone who watched the series the first time last year, the acting and humor seem fine for TV honestly. The CGI dated of course but not offensive either.

      If anything I found the later seasons more disappointing than 1 and 2 as smaller scale stories are replaced with moving the big plot forward, which still feels rushed somehow.

      • jefc11112 hours ago
        The disclaimer is just based on my own opinion, so inevitably there will be people to whom it does not apply. Some of the acting in season 1 is great, I would just say there are some spots where it kinda briefly falls through the floor. It may be just because I have seen it several times so am spotting things that I wouldn't have first time round.

        With season 4, I believe what happened is that towards the start of production JMS was told there would be no S5 after all, so he put all of S4 and S5 into S4 ... but then there was an S5 after all!

        • sidpatilan hour ago
          > smaller scale stories are replaced with moving the big plot forward

          This is pretty common in TV shows, from what I've noticed. It takes a few seasons for a show to find its footing.

    • whynotmaybe2 hours ago
      No, you're not biased, it's simply the best!

      It's getting old but nostalgia kicks in as soon as I see a Vorlon ship

  • t312227an hour ago
    hello,

    as always: imho. (!)

    ah ... babylon 5 :))

    this was one of the best scifi shows back in the mid 1990ties.

    it introduced a lot things which we take for granted today ... together with startrek "deep space nine" which roughly aired during the same time:

    * telling a "story arch" over multiple seasons

    * 2 parallel story-lines within episodes

    * causally show people doing "every-day" life things, like going to the toilet - you may laugh, but 30+ years ago, for example in various startrek spinoffs - tng, ds9, voyager - nobody went to the toilet ... ever!!

    don't get me wrong, i'm a big fan of startrek too ;))

    * despite their budget decent CGI for the time

    if i remember it correctly: they used a software called "lightroom", which ran on the amiga hardware-platform at first, for later seasons they moved to PC hardware...

    just if you wonder about the quality of the CGI ... this was some 680x0 computer running at something like 16 or 32 MHz (!) with a few MB (!) of memory.

    not a scifi "blockbuster" utilizing multimillion us$ SGI clusters like ILM productions of the era did!

    absolutely recommended:

    "the lurker's guide to babylon 5"

    * http://midwinter.com/lurk/lurker.html

    just my 0.02€

  • RupertSalt4 hours ago
    The hosting channel is called "Clipzone: Beyond Infinity" https://youtube.com/@czbeyondinfinity?si=Vhn1LH1TjJzxNyLZ

    "The Gathering" was uploaded on January 22. Currently available are episodes 1, 3, and 4, (Thursdays), and assorted five-minute clips. I could not find them bundled in a playlist here.

    The episodes are in broadcast order. "Midnight on the Firing Line", a missing episode, is listed as Episode 1 in Wikipedia, because "The Gathering" was a pilot.

    Steve Grimm's "Lurker's Guide" is still online since 33 years, and updated with 2023's releases: http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/countries/us/eplist.html

    • account424 hours ago
      > "The Gathering" was uploaded on January 22

      The 16:9 cropped and upscaled version (of the TNT cut) unfortunately, with the same excessive noise reduction and sharpening that previous releases of that version had. Baffling why they keep using this version when even the old DVD release has better quality.

      • RupertSalt3 hours ago
        The original episodes were all recorded in wide aspect ratio, even though they were destined for broadcast TV. They were touted as future compatibility. So the original broadcasts were "pan & scan". Then, when the wide-aspect disc formats arrived, it turned out that converting them was not a simple matter of going back to the originals and plopping them on disc.

        https://b5remasterissues.wordpress.com/the-good/

        • account422 hours ago
          Only the live action shots were recorded with a wide aspect ratio, and perhaps not even that for the pilot. The CGI was rendered in 4:3 and the final cuts including transitions and VFX where composited in 4:3.

          The remaster combines cropped 4:3 but high resolution scans of the original live action footage with (sometimes badly) upscaled versions of CGI and VFX'd shots -- except for the pilot which is fully upscaled and cropped from the original 4:3 broadcast masters with zero high resolution live action footage. I don't know if the pilot footage was actually shot widescreen but if it was then you don't get any of it in the "widescreen" pilot included in the remastered versions.

          • Apocryphonan hour ago
            So just what is the optimal way to watch this show
        • jeffwaskan hour ago
          DS9 and Voy have the same issue. For DS9, Season 1 was shot wide screen compatible then they switched to 16:9 but none of the effects are widescreen ready.
      • RupertSalt3 hours ago
        YouTube is still offering all five seasons for sale (not including "The Gathering" pilot.)

        There is a choice of Standard Defintion and High Definition. Usually that only means a change in resolution, not different conversions.

  • PepperdineG14 minutes ago
    “Sooner or later everyone comes to Babylon 5."