It's hard to see conventional pipelines doing a faster job of parsing scattered mentions of rare phrases like 'jerky' across a million documents than the competitive environment of individual entrepreneurialism could.
The level of tinfoil hat theories (example: cannibalism) which people are now taking as the truth off of which to build more theories is really something. The unfortunate thing is - in our current environment, the crazy speculation and knowingly dealing in just shit you made up seems to actually pay off when pressuring public officials.
I am glad the files were released. A lot of people have a lot of explaining to do. I don't actually think this ends up going anywhere, but we'll see.
I saw a video on Instagram claiming (or at least insinuating) that Epstein had access to all of Lifetouch's photos, because "the company is in the Epstein files!". Turns out, it was a single line item for $109 in what looked like banking records. In comparison, that same selection of files mentioned Whole Foods ~250 times.
For those outside the US, Lifetouch does school photos for about half the schools in the US (or something like that) so you can understand how that's a thread that conspiracy theorists can pull on. But there's nothing there. Just a single payment to the company in a sea of thousands and thousands of normal, every day purchases.
LET ME REPEAT. WHO CARES. I don't blame a single god damn person for getting wrapped up in conspiracies.
Eventually people stop caring about what is true anymore.
I haven’t seen any indication of “people that didn’t previously believe in cannibal elites now believe in cannibal elites after reading the emails” being a phenomenon that actually exists.
I’ve yet to interact with anyone that has seriously said “I didn’t believe they ate babies on Tuesday but it is Thursday and now I believe they were eating babies.” but people are posting like that’s a thing that happens frequently now. It’s almost like the tinfoil hat theory I’ve seen the most isn’t “pedophile cannibals” but rather “reading the emails will make you go crazy and start believing in cannibal pedophiles” like they are an actual real-life Lovecraftian hazard, which is a much more outlandish idea than… kooks and hucksters continuing to be kooks and hucksters.
Don't take it out on me. I am outraged. I can't be outraged every minute of every day, and certainly not at the very-unlikely-to-be-true worst theories from the files. I am so sorry my post did not live up to your expectations.
You're right about something:
> you know, than remarking on the fact that once again, nothing will happen.
Any kind of pretense that justice ever got served to Epstein and his co-conspirators is a joke. We all know it. The system is a joke - a joke that's on us.
We're sitting around waiting for Luke Skywalker or Wonder Woman; someone else to improve the world.
It's not just you but it is you too.
Time for an extended break from things.
I've seen a number of HN threads lately where commenters regain their balance like this and respond in a thoroughly decent way.
A new pattern? I wish! but it's probably just the clustering illusion... (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37303788)
AFAICT it's not well considered by DoJ that this works roughly in proportion to the technical aptitude of opposing counsel. The public has excellent technical aptitude when motivated and none otherwise and this is clearly a situation of motivation.
You don’t need to appeal to shadowy cabals to explain why media professionals have been desperate for this stuff to not be true (and why, every day these days, you can still read examples of them absolutely writhing as they are obliged by public outrage to continue to report on it).
All you really need is to remember that a) they have mortgages to pay, too, so why rock the boat, and b) the people who end up writing for the WSJ and the people who end up in Jeffrey’s rolodex are by and large the same class of people. They went to the same colleges, they consume similar culture and media, they play the same games of keep up with the joneses, they read the Economist on their days off and fret over Gen Z slang and wonder whether the Chase card or the Amex will get them enough airline miles to fly to London for free with their spouse etc etc. They recognize themselves in the “Epstein class” — not in their crimes, but in their manners. So why would they be party to showing the world that class is so profoundly rotten? It’d give the lie to their whole lifestyle.
(And yes, to anticipate a critique here, of course there’s a difference between a producer at NBC and a billionaire! Not denying that. But they are cut from the exact same cultural and social cloth. The best proof of this is in the Epstein files themselves: not in the creepy or criminal bits, but in the mundane stuff. How he talks, what’s on his mind, the advice he gives, etc. It’s all American upper middle class humdrum stuff.)
Yet, here we are, no media wants to report on it, and they all wish that we all just forget about it and go back to buying khakis.
1) The slow and steady institutional journalists who are reporting on the government
2) The fast and loose citizen journalists who are reporting on the government
3) The government who is saturating the attention of both of them while they look for something that exists in the 98% portion of unreleased documentation about government wrongdoing
I mean who’s the idiot? Maybe it’s the government interns who need to read 100% to release 2%.
Then again, you also openly expressed an antisemitic conspiracy theory (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46959252) along with a lot of racist Great Replacement stuff (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46922014), so maybe unreliable news sources are the least of it. Seems like you're probably a literal White Nationalist.
Is it totally fair? No. Is it reasonably high probability? IMO, yes. Is there likely information value on 4chan that could be difficult to find elsewhere? Probably. Is it worth my time and aggravation to sort through it? No.
I understand the reporting is like "LOOK AT ALL THESE CRIMES" but the files themselves are stuff like "Tee hee I know some girls for you".
How do you get from that to an arrest or conviction? If you unredacted that person, identified them and called them would they tell you that the girls were all 18 or older? Or would they incriminate themselves? Do you know it hasn't already been followed up on?
I honestly dont understand what people are expecting here.
An investigation...?
You do an investigation
> Do you know it hasn't already been followed up on?
Yes because that would be a part of these files. It’s not disputed that at minimum any leads, including victim testimonies, were not followed up.
I would love a source that discusses this.
But everyone knows Snopes is leftist propaganda, so it's probably false. /s
Wouldn't there be a clip of her saying it?
No one has even bothered to spend the 25 cents on an AI generated one as far as I've seen.
She is just a figurehead, her or her family's life is almost certainly under threat
If there were democrats on that list, they’d already be in jail.
Democrats WANT to see the pedos in our party getting justice! We have no loyalty to our party. We are the party of purity testing and infighting.
Anthony Weiner went down quickly. Cuomo went down quickly. Even folks who didn't deserve it like Al Franken go down quickly!
Or as the rest of the world calls it, “not being a criminal organization”.
This is a criminally colluding Pam Bondi saying this. I guarantee that every single person on the Epstein list is replaceable many times over. There is not a single person on that list that is indispensable in any role they play in society. Full stop. Don't fall for it.
It's just the way the system is built. Even Pam Bondi is replaceable (and should be replaced) by many, many actual qualified people.
Basically take the most sad and disturbing Eastern European horror and put it in email form.
I had to stop my Seinfeld rewatch because I saw one email were he just happened to be boating by and stopped by the island for lemonade.
The richest people and political elite were openly trading prices on children, leaving rave reviews on child services and how great that torture film was that was sent
Its sick
After the 3-4th blacked out little girl showing her genitals so they can be sold, I’m going to go out on a limb and say that if someone is connected to the island they need to be thoroughly investigated. That’s not a stretch.
Replies like yours are what’s sick downplaying the most prolific industrial child rape in modern America and only one person is sitting in prison. And none of the customers.
After investigating Jerry further, yeah dating a 17 year old high schooler and picking her up after school is equal distressing.
So thank you for your astute analysis and defense of a person who drove to a high school to have a physical relationship 21 years younger but I’ll hold off on watching Seinfeld for now. If that’s not too controversial.
I don’t think it’s controversial to say someone with a history of pedophilia (yes a grown 38 yo man 17yo highschooler is pedophile) being mentioned a the island should at least step back and investigate it.
In my mind someone like Larry Nasser or all those Catholic priests who raped alter boys are pedophiles.
I agree that it's pretty gross behavior but it seems to be normalized in many countries.
Technically attraction to 15-19 year olds is called Ephebophilia whereas Pedophilia is attraction to 14 and under.
https://www.axios.com/2026/02/10/trump-epstein-files-jamie-r...
Much of that is probably the news articles and gossip Epstein was known to circulate as the walls were closing in. Still, their friendship goes back decades and they were neighbors both in NYC and Florida.