16 pointsby speckx3 hours ago4 comments
  • pcthrowaway15 minutes ago
    Why are Zulip and Mattermost not considered here? To be clear I am a former Mattermost user who would no longer recommend them, but considering Zulip now as a replacement
    • grougnax12 minutes ago
      Maybe they are not for furries?
  • RandomGerm4n2 hours ago
    I think it would be a mistake to reject Matrix outright. Even if it's not perfect, it would still be a good starting point from which to build something better. Besides, you don't have to replace Discord with the perfect solution, just with something that's better than Discord and where there's no company behind it that can steer it in a negative direction again, as happened with Discord.
    • erxam2 hours ago
      >just with something that's better than Discord

      I mean, that's the entire issue. There's very little tangibly better than Discord. I like the idea of Matrix, but it's complete garbage in practice.

      At least for now, the solution lies more in mass outrage and action rather than any technological migration. The post raises this and I think it's a good point.

      • iwontberude2 minutes ago
        Element is way better these days. Not many people know this but Matrix team upgraded synapse last year to support hundreds of simultaneous voice/video users without the need for that shitty jitsi. Element has web embeddings for links now, it has all the platforms supported, it’s easy to verify sessions and backup your key. They support SSO external auth. What more can you want?
      • erxam2 hours ago
        Also, the fetishism for federation has got to stop. It's only barely workable in asynchronous environments like the Fediverse, but on a live chat service it's ruinous. It's feels like it's half of what's suffocating Matrix.
        • MarsIronPI34 minutes ago
          IDK, XMPP group chats have always "jest werked" for me (though admittedly I haven't used them much).

          The difference between XMPP group chats and Matrix group chats is that Matrix servers replicate all the message history, whereas XMPP group chats are hosted on a single server. IMO the "bring your own account to a central server" model of XMPP is a good thing, but the "replicate all the things" model of Matrix is not.

  • iwontberude7 minutes ago
    My community (30 members or so) of hackers switched to Matrix last October because we were afraid of a draconian policy which would attempt to unmask and chronicle our members identities and sentiments. We now spend more than we did with Discord but the data sovereignty is worth it. Not a plug per se, but we host our international community members content out of Germany using federated.computer.

    In recent days people have been coming out of the woodwork trying to join again.

  • skywalqeran hour ago
    What about SimpleX? Is it good? Did somebody try it?
    • Sarisan hour ago
      It's basically a replacement for SMS, not anything near what Discord does.