38 pointsby monero-xmr7 hours ago11 comments
  • tkocmathla4 hours ago
    > There’s a feeling in Hollywood that audiences have short attention spans and must be assaulted with fresh novelties. I think such movies are slower to sit through than a film like “Shawshank,” which absorbs us and takes away the awareness that we are watching a film.

    This resonates with me and is a really concise way to explain why, to me, a 2 to 2.5 hour long Marvel or Transformers movie feels like an eternity, while a movie like Shawshank never has me checking my watch.

    • jcynix4 hours ago
      Ghibli movies are a different class of movies, but the exact thing that you describe "absorbs us and takes away the awareness that we are watching a film" is what happends to me. The story is so intriguing that I even "forget" that I'm watching a painted movie.
      • ted_bunny3 hours ago
        Spirited Away contains an accurate review of itself in the title!
  • smurda4 hours ago
    This is one of my favorite movies, yet it won 0 Oscars (nominated for 7) and was a box office flop (cost $25M to make and box office proceeds were $28M). It only gained popularity after the theatres from the VHS rental market.

    I firmly believe part of the initial commercial failure was because of the title. With something more descriptive like, "Escape from Shawshank" or just "Prison Break" people would have been more interested to see it.

    • pavlov4 hours ago
      The Finnish importer tried this. They decided to call the movie “Rita Hayworth – avain pakoon”. It means “Key to the escape”…

      These people would have presumably called Planet of the Apes “Distant future in Eastern United States”…

      • nntwozz4 hours ago
        On a tangent the movie Cold Mountain (2003) was translated to "Åter till Cold Mountain" in Swedish.

        Now you may ask, where is the actual translation? They just added Swedish words to the original title (which just means back to Cold Mountain".

        Who are these people and how do I apply for a job? It seems like a perfect workplace.

    • karim794 hours ago
      Reminds me of the Luc Besson film "Leon", which also went by the names "The Professional" and also "Leon: The Professional". A great film but there was definitely something going on in regards to getting crowds interested purely by messing with the title of the film.
      • ted_bunny3 hours ago
        Confound: I think one of that film's themes made people deeply uncomfortable, and it was not hidden from the marketing as far as I know. I was a bit put off by its execution myself, even though there's really nothing untoward about it on a factual level.
    • cm21873 hours ago
      For the academy awards, to its defense, it was competing against Pulp Fiction, Forrest Gump, Four Weddings and a Funeral, or the Madness of King George. I can barely name one good movie a year these days, and certainly none that makes it to the oscars. The contrast with the 90s is brutal.
      • ignoramous3 hours ago
        > can barely name one good movie a year these days

        Not really.

        Of the recent movies, Everything Everywhere All at Once is a storytelling masterpiece. Since you mentioned it, I personally rate it alongside Tarantino's Pulp Fiction.

    • nopakos3 hours ago
      In Greece it was released as "Τελευταία έξοδος: Ρίτα Χέιγουορθ" literally "Last Exit: Rita Hayworth". People were saying, jokingly, that the title was a spoiler.
    • HeavyStorm3 hours ago
      In Brazil it was released as A Dream of Freedom. Gotta say it took me years to learn the original title.
    • riffraff3 hours ago
      the italian dubbing was named "le ali della libertà" (the wings of freedom), which is one of the rare cases where I agree with using a different name than the original, since nobody would have clue what "Shawshank" means.
    • haunter3 hours ago
      In hungarian it's translated into "prisoners of hope" (A remény rabjai) which I think is pretty good even though I despise dubbing
  • TonyStr4 hours ago
    > [...]and the redemption, when it comes, is Red’s.

    (spoilers)

    It never sat right with me that Andy is shown to be innocent, and some viciously evil irrelevant character did it instead. This, I thought, takes away the whole redemption aspect of the movie, turning Andy into an innocent Mary Sue. I'd never considered that it may be more about Red's character instead. Though I didn't catch a satisfying explanation for that idea in the review, and it's been a long time since I watched the move.

    I think I'll rewatch it today.

    • spiderfarmer4 hours ago
      It was my first movie about prison life in the US and the failures of the American justice and correctional system. I since learned it was realistic in every aspect apart from the escape, and that not much has changed since.

      Everything about it is depressing and somehow it’s the best movie ever.

    • ted_bunny3 hours ago
      Yes, it was a bit too uncomplicated to me and smacks of "Oscar Bait."
  • decimalenough4 hours ago
    Quite a few classics like this and "Office Space" were box office flops that were resurrected by the magic of VHS/DVD. Yet those are gone too. Is there any room left for the "sleeper hit" in 2026?
    • troupo4 hours ago
      There's no space left for actual hits. Movies aren't even given proper theatrical releases. One week at the theater then straight to streaming, or even simultaneous theater and streaming releases.
    • forrestthewoods4 hours ago
      K-pop demon hunters.
      • haunter3 hours ago
        That's not a sleeper hit, it became the most watched animation ever on Netflix 1 month after the release and then the most watched film ever after 2 months.
  • karim794 hours ago
    "Rita Hayworth and Shawshank Redemption" is one of my favourite Stephen King short stories (From "Different Seasons"). I actually read it after watching the film (which is just amazing) and still ended up liking the short story more than the film. I would highly recommend it to just about anyone.
    • lemonberry4 hours ago
      "Stand by Me" was based on "The Body" from that same book. Great collection.
      • riffraff3 hours ago
        "Apt Pupil" was also adapted as a movie tho not as good as the other two, imvho.
  • Thorrez4 hours ago
    (1999) (The movie is from 1994, the review is from 1999.)
  • jcynix3 hours ago
    It's a fine movie, agreed. The movie's focus isn't on revenge, but on the interaction between the protagonists. Anyways, the story outline heavily reminds me of the classic "The Count of Monte Cristo" by Dumas.

    Disclaimer: I never read Stephen King's original short story, on which the movie is based, so I cannot say how this compares to Dumas' classic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Count_of_Monte_Cristo

  • ted_bunny3 hours ago
    Are there any new Eberts? The review landscape feels like it still hasn't exited his shadow but needs to evolve.
  • simianwords4 hours ago
    In my opinion, the costs to make movies have gone down so much that you will find sincerity not only in high production value releases but also in YouTube and vlogs.
  • simianwords4 hours ago
    What’s an equivalent movie in contemporary times? Not pretentious, sincere and relies on dialogue and story telling?

    I kind of hated movies like Manchester By The Sea, American Sniper, Banshees of Insherin.

    They all feel not so sincere to me. There’s something about them - a technique where audience exposition is deliberately toned down to such an extent that it’s just scene after scene with no soul.

    • pavlov4 hours ago
      “Sincere” and “authentic” are very much taste factors calibrated by whatever was the media environment when you were growing up.

      Most people think the best year in pop music history was the one when they were 12. There’s a similar effect about the good old movies.

      • simianwords4 hours ago
        I was afraid I was committing the same mistake. Am I just used to the older type of movies? It could be possible.
    • rwmjan hour ago
      A good, meditative film with a long arc of time and a bit of prison is Ash is the Purest White (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7298400/)
    • haunter3 hours ago
      Watch japanese films. Or just generally don't watch american films

      Kore-eda Hirokazu: Still Walking (2008), Monster (2023), Shoplifters (2018)

      Hamaguchi Ryusuke: Drive My Car (2021), Evil Does Not Exist (2023)

      A Story of Yonosuke (2013) from Okita Shuichi

      Memories of Matsuko (2006) from Nakashima Tetsuya

      Departures (2008) from Takita Yojiro

      Perfect Days (2023) from Wim Wenders. Even though he is not japanese it's a very japanese film

      but there are lot more

      • rwmj3 hours ago
        You can't mention Kore-eda without mentioning After Life (1998), surely? (Confusingly called Wonderful Life in Japanese, and also I don't mean the Gervais series.)

        There's a recent US "remake"/homage which I haven't dared to watch.

        • haunter3 hours ago
          Yess! So good too. We could probably just recommend all his films

          I’d say he is my favorite contemporary director.

          The only american director I’d consider right now is Terrence Malick. I just hope his Jesus film gets released…

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    • bji9jhff4 hours ago
      Who is the new Stephen King? I suppose answering my question will automatically also give an answer to yours.
      • riffraff3 hours ago
        I think this opens a huge can of further questions: what is a Stephen King? Is it a best selling author who's a house name, a very successful genre author, one who spans genres and is successful in all of them, one whose' books get regularly translated to TV, a very good craftman of books that people actually read...

        My feeling is that there isn't and _won't be_ a new Stephen King that checks all the boxes, due to declining readership and reduced barriers to independent publishing.

    • dzink4 hours ago
      I wouldn’t exclude TV shows: Halt and Catch Fire, Dark Matter, Ted Lasso.
      • ted_bunny3 hours ago
        Ted Lasso comes off as so smarmy that it's insincere to me, like a cynical attempt to ride a wave of New Sincerity.
      • greesil3 hours ago
        Andor
    • p-e-w4 hours ago
      About Dry Grasses by Nuri Ceylan. Probably the best film I’ve seen in the past 10 years, which isn’t saying that much because the past 10 years have been among the worst in the history of film, but it’s still a very good movie.
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