ICE urged to explain memo about collecting info on protesters(arstechnica.com)
52 pointsby pseudolus4 hours ago5 comments
  • keernan42 minutes ago
    A retired US citizen emailed a DHS attorney urging mercy for an asylum seeker he had read about. Five hours later he received an email from Google advising him the federal government had served Google with a subpoena demanding information about him. Then they followed up by knocking on his door.

    The federal government's concerted effort to intimidate citizens should concern every American.

    https://archive.ph/b9ON8

  • bediger40002 hours ago
    "Urged" means ICE is already beyond accountability to anyone other than Trump, they're secret police. Trouble ahead!
  • lawn3 hours ago
    What's there to explain? We should all know where fascism takes us.
    • greggoB2 hours ago
      The headline isn't quite right, the wording "urged to explain" suggests the problem is the contents of the memo, but

      > "... demanded that Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) confirm or deny the existence..."

      shows the contention is it existing in the first place.

  • decremental3 hours ago
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  • dpoloncsak2 hours ago
    With all due respect, if these protests are not being done with the coordination of local municipalities, then it is just illegally interfering with an ongoing police investigation, right? With how quickly and unorganized these pop-up I can't believe they're all government-sanctioned. If it blocks traffic, legally it needs a permit. (Or is this just some/my municipality?)

    We're all well aware a database of domestic terrorists exist, right? Didn't anyone caught keying a Tesla get added just a few months ago? We all expect people purposely interfering with DHS to exist on that list...what's the shock here?

    This isnt even in support of ICE. I just understand how the right to protest works....

    • Computer040 minutes ago
      Why would I care if a protest is done in coordination with the local municipality. Why would I care if traffic gets blocked. Why would I care if a DHS agent has their finger bit off? These things require a level of respect for a system I do not have. I hope this clears things up.
    • ImPostingOnHN6 minutes ago
      Which law is broken by holding up a sign on the sidewalk, not obstructing traffic, and shouting?

      Which law is broken by telling people that masked, armed thugs (maybe ICE, maybe not, impossible to tell) are assaulting people in the area?

      Which local, city, or state official deputized Immigration and Customs Enforcement to be legal Law Enforcement of local, city, or state traffic laws?

      I'll do some pre-work for you -- this one mentions a crime only if there is "assault": https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/111

    • saubeidlan hour ago
      a) which ongoing police investigation?

      b) how do you make the jump from protesting an unjust administrative act to domestic terrorism?