61 pointsby malchow5 hours ago7 comments
  • DecoySalamander8 minutes ago
    The most interesting data running through Starlink is Ukrainian and Russian military comms (including feeds from drones). I wonder if Musk actually plans to tap into that.
  • ZiiS3 hours ago
    Given their inherit latency, and cost; the equation for running everything via Wireguard is surly worth it.
    • ranger_danger2 hours ago
      Wireguard to where? Another ISP/VPN that can also sell/MITM your traffic just as well? Non-residential exit IPs are also very often blocked by many websites.
      • ZiiS2 hours ago
        Residential ISPs are well setup for monitoring home traffic (and legally required to in most places). A VPS in a different jurisdiction is vastly less likely to be good at it.
      • ZiiS2 hours ago
        You occasionally get blocked, but not that often if you can putup with a few more captchas. Can't remember it ever being more then a minor inconvenience and well worth this cost.
        • ranger_danger2 hours ago
          My home internet is 5G, and many, many websites are blocked or have infinite captcha loops... even well-known sites. Etsy is blocked. Reddit/Discord/Locals is blocked. Archive.is only captcha loops. Even libera IRC is blocked. Trying to buy products online often gets the order flagged or canceled as a potential bot or VPN. IPs are rotated often so I unfortunately have to share bad-reputation IPs with people who keep the addresses on global blacklists like DroneBL that are used by many sites. Even 4chan blocks most of the IPs I get because other people post CP from there.

          Trying to use a VPS/cloud IP or well-known VPN provider, the experience for me is just as bad or worse.

          For some, the issue is a lot worse than you think.

  • aquir3 hours ago
    Sounds like loads of new VPN subscribers to me! I would certainly do it myself.
  • Animats3 hours ago
    Is Grok listening to Starlink traffic?
  • measurablefunc4 hours ago
    The objective of every technocracy is to ensconce the entire planet in a panopticon. SpaceX is not sending those internet satellites into space just for consumer internet applications. Those satellites are also going to maintain the control plane for the sensors & actuators in the future technocratic panopticon.
  • IshKebab2 hours ago
    I'd be surprised if they were really going to sniff traffic and dump that into training runs. 99% of traffic is going to be encrypted these days. Probably not very useful.