37 pointsby speckx10 days ago3 comments
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  • mekdoonggi10 days ago
    I'm hopeful that the pressures on the administration prevent a massacre in Minneapolis, but it's a possibility. The propaganda repeaters are working overtime, but surely the electorate in the US is being moved by the media coming out of Minneapolis.

    I feel that this issue is engulfing the administration, and they have no ability to take any accountability.

    I hope that it's been made plain to everyone with the ability to reason that MAGA are fascists and bootlicking cowards to a man, and that progressives are teargas eating revolutionaries.

    • pixl979 days ago
      >but surely the electorate in the US is being moved by the media coming out of Minneapolis.

      Depends which media you subscribe to. Quite a lot of it spins it so insanely I can't understand how it comes from the same planet.

      • bigbadfeline9 days ago
        > I can't understand how it comes from the same planet.

        A brain on a nationalism is worse than another planet. The disease isn't widespread yet, but the bot farms are working hard to make sure everyone gets an infectious doze.

    • mrguyorama9 days ago
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    • zzrrt9 days ago
      > Renee Good pressed the accelerator while her car's wheels were still pointed at the ICE agent

      This is something I can agree with, but it does NOT prove that Good was trying to hurt the agent (I believe she made an error while trying to leave), it raises the questions of whether he should have simply hopped away or noticed her turning the wheel as he drew, nor does it justify the two rounds he shot from the SIDE of the vehicle after it missed him, nor does it justify him violating multiple police guidelines in walking around the vehicle and firing at it. I don’t know exactly what position you’re taking, but those are some of the things people are saying, and it does make a difference whether this was an attack or a confrontation where both sides made bad choices.

      > check the the slow-motion bodycam video

      Is there an actual bodycam? This situation has been criticized over the lack of bodycams and the sloppiness of the agent filming with his phone in one hand while confronting someone.

      > cities defying federal immigration law

      I don’t know your take, but it’s rich how many Repubs will rant about “states’ rights” and then flip as soon as they agree with the federal government’s agenda more than a state’s in a particular case.

      • like_any_other9 days ago
        > Is there an actual bodycam?

        There is, but I may have misremembered that it is on the bodycam video that the wheel direction is visible. In any case, you can see it here (focus on the video, as what the video shows and what the NYT says are not always the same):

        https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000010648638/ice-shootin...

        • zzrrt9 days ago
          I watched, I don’t think any of it was bodycam. What timestamp do you think was?
          • like_any_other9 days ago
            At around 38 seconds. The top left is what I mistook for bodycam due to the perspective, but it is cellphone video by the agent in question.
            • zzrrt9 days ago
              It’s important everyone knows it’s not actually a bodycam though, as it affects the interpretation of e.g. what’s happening when it flips to the sky or gets obscured. Again, it’s also stupid and dangerous that he and his agency put him in that situation one-handed and without a bodycam.
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