Related:

NTSB Preliminary Report – UPS Boeing MD-11F Crash [pdf] (216 points, 2 months ago, 228 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45995834

UPS grounds its fleet of MD-11's, sources say (19 points, 3 months ago, 4 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45854311

UPS plane crashes near Louisville airport (421 points, 3 months ago, 451 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45816963

Lmao I called it the day of the tragedy. These flying deathtraps should have been chopped up into beer cans 15 years ago. There is a reason they have not flown people commercially—at all—for over a decade. Most airlines dumped them in the 90s. The safety record for this aircraft is insane, with a nasty habit of flipping over onto its back if you botched the landing ever so slightly. They tried to push every cent out of these birds, like your neighbor who still drives a Pontiac Fiero to work because it's a "perfectly good car".

Amazing that only 2 aircraft of this design have crashed in this way, once you read the incident reports and see the exact same failure mode.