9 pointsby LostMyLogin3 hours ago8 comments
  • uncommoncents9 minutes ago
    'People' will crawl out of the woodwork to complain about this like it doesn't reflect the necessary and proper conditions of a nation. This has to be one of the most obvious sentences ever written. People these days will gleefully sign themselves into sole and exclusive allegiance with a profit-aligned corporation, but balk when a society they are born into, mandated to protect and represent them, would require the same kind of loyalty.

    Go ahead, defend having higher loyalties to another country as a US citizen. We've been dealing with foreign agents and dissidents like you since our founding. There are still plenty of wartime laws we can activate to deal with that kind of sedition.

    • yellowapple2 minutes ago
      Putting “people” in scare-quotes while spewing inhuman and downright unpatriotic rhetoric is certainly a choice.

      No, dual-citizenships do not cause people to be “foreign agents and dissidents”, and further, to be a “dissident” is a human right that this country was founded specifically to preserve and defend. Welcome to America, where dissent is our Constitutional right; if you don't like that, you can leave, instead of trying to invoke “wartime laws” to impose your anti-American viewpoints on the rest of us.

  • codingdave3 hours ago
    Not likely to actually go anywhere. It hasn't even gone to committee.

    https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/119/s3283

    Still, good to be aware of what is out there. Call your representatives on anything you see that sounds like a bad idea.

    • stockresearcher13 minutes ago
      So far in the 119th congress there have been 3688 bills filed in the Senate. A fraction of a percent of them will ever get talked about, voted on, or passed an sent to the House. It’s performative theatre for the constituents back home.

      And especially, if you’ve noticed, lately the Senate has taken to gaveling into session for the sole purpose of declaring a recess until the next day - being in session for less than 30 seconds a day! Today, they were in session for 11 seconds…

  • barbazoo3 hours ago
    The language reminds me of how Germany handled dual citizenships until very recently, taking away the German citizenship unless a years long opaque retention certificate application process wasn't followed.
    • MarkusWandelan hour ago
      Until recently? Honest question, what is the rule now? Source?
  • LostMyLogin3 hours ago
    Full title: To establish that citizens of the United States shall owe sole and exclusive allegiance to the United States, and for other purposes.
  • hn_acker3 hours ago
    An allegience bill introduced by Bernie Moreno, huh. In my opinion, any federal government official who denies the 2020 election has violated their allegiance to the United States. As early as 2021 [1]:

    > After the 2020 presidential election, Moreno criticized those denying the results of the election, but in 2021 expressed his belief that the election had been "stolen".

    And as late as 2024 [2]:

    > In paid advertising before the primary, Moreno had embraced Trump’s lies about the 2020 election he lost to Democrat Joe Biden.

    > “President Trump says the election was stolen and he’s right,” Moreno said in one digital ad.

    [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Moreno#Political_positi...

    [2] https://apnews.com/article/republicans-ohio-moreno-trump-she...

    • mikeaskew42 hours ago
      Moreno is Santos with zero panache.
  • ungreased06752 hours ago
    What problem is this intended to solve?
    • bediger4000an hour ago
      This is going to sound frivolous on first reading, but I don't mean it that way. Proles having dual citizenship might be able to escape Trump's vengeance by having their other country intervene.

      Of course sufficiently wealthy people will always be able to buy their way out of trouble.

  • jjgreen3 hours ago
    Feels a bit ... needy?
  • Jtsummers3 hours ago
    It'll be interesting to see how far this gets. A lot of wealthy people in the US have multiple citizenship. Elon Musk, for instance, holds citizenship status in three countries. Thiel in the US and New Zealand.