54 pointsby tzury2 days ago1 comment
  • abetusk21 hours ago
    I'm no expert but, from what I understand, the idea is that they found two 3D shapes (maybe 2D skins in 3D space?) that have the same mean curvature and metric but are topologically different (and aren't mirror images of each other). This is the first (non-trivial) pair of finite (compact) shapes that have been found.

    In other words, if you're an ant on one of these surfaces and are using mean curvature and the metric to determine what the shape is, you won't be able to differentiate between them.

    The paper has some more pictures of the surfaces [0]. Wikipedia's been updated even though the result is from Oct 2025 [1].

    [0] https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10240-025-00159-z

    [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonnet_theorem

    • matheist21 hours ago
      To be precise, the mean curvature and metric are the same but the immersions are different (they're not related by an isometry of the ambient space).

      Topologically they're the same (the example found was different immersions of a torus).

      • OgsyedIE15 hours ago
        Is it the case that 'they' are simply two ways of immersing the same two tori in R^3 such that the complements in R^3 of the two identical tori are topologically different?

        If so, isn't this just a new flavor of higher-dimensional knot theory?