44 pointsby mooreds3 days ago4 comments
  • marbs3 hours ago
    If you drive from Cambridge (UK) to Wimpole, you'll see some impressively large radio telescopes that belong to the Mullard Radio Astronomy Observatory (MRAO).

    However, there's much more that's not visible from the road. Hidden behind the trees, MRAO has a prototype SKA-Low array (from before the full installation in Australia), and three dishes from a HERA prototype.

    The MRAO itself has a fascinating history, notably including the discovery of the first pulsar by Jocelyn Bell using the wonderfully named Interplanetary Scintillation Array, which consisted of over four thousand dipole antennas spread across nine acres. In WWI the site was a mustard gas factory, with train station and sidings. The train tracks have long since gone, but the station building remains. Inside hangs a large, coloured but faded image titled "GALACTIC RADIO EMISSION AT 38 Mc/s". This appears to be a coloured visualisation based upon the black & white figure in pages 654-655 of a 1957 paper [0].

    The above 1957 paper illustrates a survey of half the celestial sphere at 38 MHz. In comparison, this specific MeerKAT image from the article [1] appears to be a 1.28 GHz measurement focusing on the galactic center (6.5 square degrees) [2]. So it's not a 100% like-for-like comparison, but interesting nonetheless to see how much the detail has improved in the past ~70 years!

    [0] https://adsabs.harvard.edu/pdf/1957MNRAS.117..652B ("RESULTS OF A SURVEY OF GALACTIC RADIATION AT 38 Mc/s")

    [1] https://physicsworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/2025-02-...

    [2] https://arxiv.org/pdf/2201.10541 ("The 1.28 GHz MeerKAT Galactic Center Mosaic")

    • timthorn2 hours ago
      The MRAO is a fascinating place, with things left as they were the last time an instrument was used. The floor of the hut where the array cables were aggregated for connection to the cable back to the Cavendish is covered in little plastic caps from the connectors, discarded as the instrument was being set up.

      The article talks about HERA; MRAO hosts the prototype for that. IIRC, they experimented with methods to build the dishes with off-the-shelf parts - such as drainpipes to build the ring.

      • metalmanan hour ago
        there is an antena farm on the way from the city to my place that I use as a reference land mark for new visitors, which I call "area 52", which also serves as a kind of personality test, where most will laugh and say they know where it is, but some few who are uncomfortable as it's a long wave sigint base, marked on all the flight maps, that they are clearly wishing not to have seen or looked at, be in a conversation referencing, and now marked for life grimly waiting for a knock on the door.
  • beastman82an hour ago
    > The image (above) shows long radio-emitting filaments up to 150 light–years long unspooling from the heart of the galaxy. These structures, whose origin remains unknown, were first observed in 1984, but the new image revealed 10 times more than had ever been seen before.

    I don't understand how this isn't the biggest news in astronomy. Gigantic filaments of energy passing through the milky way

  • qwertytyyuu5 hours ago
    I love physics names. A array of telescopes with collecting are of 1 square kilomter. Square kilometer array. Makes it so clear what it is.
  • JamesTRexx5 hours ago
    "Makes it so clear what it is."

    Well.., I've been more busy with writing code lately so that the first question coming to mind was, how many bytes is an array of one square kilometer? And I assume it's a two-dimensional array.

    • Etheryte5 hours ago
      It's a radio telescope, how would you imagine translating that to bytes?
      • stargazer-35 hours ago
        Here's an article mentioning the data transmission rates in SKA, up to 20 terabits per second:

        https://www.skao.int/en/explore/big-data

      • touisteur4 hours ago
        Every sensor in the array is sampling at frequency, so - first order - you can use that sampling frequency and the sample size, you get an idea of the input bandwidth in bytes/second. There are of course bandwidth reduction steps (filtering, downsampling, beamforming)...
        • jacquesm3 hours ago
          Aren't they sampling broadband for later processing?
          • touisteuran hour ago
            On SKA from what I understand they're sampling broadband but quickly beamform and downsample as the datarates would be unsustainable to store over the whole array.
            • jacquesman hour ago
              Right, that makes sense, you'd be looking at an insane amount of data across the ranges that these sensors can look at. But they would still need to preserve phase information if they want to use the array for what it is best at and that alone is a massive amount of data.