And despite this company being creepy and weird and bizarre and secretive, they are also trying to make themselves a lifestyle brand by selling merchandise. If I felt like spending $150 for a Palantir-based hoodie, I guess I can normally do that [1], but disturbingly it is apparently "sold out". Apparently a lot of people really want to buy an overpriced sweater, or maybe they're trying to preemptively buy social credit.
Who knows. Everything is terrible.
He preaches his views to his employees. No one in his flock seems to wonder what would happen if their tools were to be used against democracy.
Not everything is about money.
The points made while on drugs are worse than worthless they are dangerous to longterm survival and those who engage in this are deeply amoral. Most of humanity is basically glorified stoners, congratulating themselves on how high they get while their futures starve. The opinion of the retarded about the warden is always that he is evil.
Go, get yourself some access to a database collected from the seeing stones(aka cellphones) and write your own behavioural queries. Look at the damage and weep. Realize the best we can manage is stabilization in shitty conditions because the warmode species is to retarded. And then go on the web and listen to the blabber of the retarded. Fusion and mini reactors will save civilzation. Meanwhile they handed out proliferation "tracking nukes" aka lookalikes with gps) in every war since the coldwar and guess what the fanatics already have blown it up, several times. Thats why panopticon, thats why electric drugs (games), thats why scenario root hardening, including hardening against government tribalist retardation. Go buy yourself a hoodie. Oh, and its all good, we are going to mars.
I would be keen to know if citizen data is being handled correctly, following GDPR/LED.
Given previous Danish client-state-like cooperation with NSA to spy on other EU countries, I can imagine the answer.
Minority Report coming right up.
Frankly, I think the fact that you're so willing to simp for a creepy billionaire and a creepy multi-billion dollar company so much as to call one of their shirts "absolutely killer" says a lot more about you than anything else.
However screening “creepy billionaire” and then accusing anyone who disagrees of “simping” is reddit tier brainrot .. not discourse. If that’s your bar, don’t get mad when someone notices you cleared it by crawling ;)
I'd definitely be having these thoughts a bit more often if I was someone in another country that found out my govt is using their services, even more so with the recent migrate-off-us-tech momentum.
It feels like they want to have their cake and eat it too; they hate the negative press calling them creepy, but also depend on that press to do their marketing because if they weren't creepy then they wouldn't have a product.
I'm not "hiding" behind anything. I made the assertion that what Palantir does (and discusses publicly [1] [2] [3]) is "creepy". I'm disappointed in your second grade teacher if you don't know what an "opinion" word is, but I guess I will assume the duty: subjective terms, like "creepy", are terms that typically describe a subjective perspective. As there's no claim of objectivity there's also no need to "prove" this, though it can be justified by specific claims, as were linked below. You are of course free to not think that stuff is creepy, that's fine, but I do think it's creepy and I doubt I'm the only one.
I don't accuse everyone who disagrees with me as simping. I'm accusing someone who thinks that a really, really ugly T-Shirt with the word "dominate" written on it as "absolutely killer" of simping. You would not think that that shirt was "killer" if Daddy Alex weren't on there.
That or you're one of those "social media consultants" that directly works for Palantir, in which case I have some other, less polite ways to describe you if you'd prefer.
[1] https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/palantir-delivers-ice-doss...
[2] https://www.thestreet.com/politics/palantir-ceo-makes-anothe...
[3] https://www.inverse.com/input/tech/palantir-ceo-alex-karp-sa...
I didn't accuse you of being a paid shill, I said if you are a paid shill I have less polite things to call you. I know that Palantir hires people to try and do social media damage control and so it's hard to know where their reach is.
> ur not defending an opinion > you’re advertising that you don’t have anything sturdier to stand on,
I did provide citations for my opinion. Please feel free to click the links or search for yourself about the specific assertions I made if you'd like; they're not hard to find at all, so you're actively lying when you said "ur not defending an opinion"; just because you were too lazy to click a link does not mean I didn't provide substantiation as to why I think that Alex Karp and Palantir at large is creepy.
> "senpai"
If you're not a paid shill, then your perspective is considerably more pathetic. You are engaging in behavior that is honestly kind of sad. Again, behavior that is usually described by the term "simp".
ETA:
For the record, I didn't flag you. I don't really care if you insult me or call me an imbecile, it's far from the worst thing anyone has called me.
Replying to your flagged response though:
> I though you were just an imbecile, but you seem to be a paranoid one at that .. this is whats really creepy tom.
I don't really see how what I said was "paranoid", considering that this all stuff that's directly publicly available, straight from the mouth of Alex Karp. Even if everything else Palantir did was good, I think what I linked is sufficient to determine that they're "creepy".
You are of course to not think that Palantir is creepy. I'm not sure why you'd have that opinion, but you're welcome to have it.
If you are too lazy to Google all of that -- it's all fact, not conjecture -- here's one more thing:
"I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible". -Peter Theil, Palantir founder.
https://www.intelligenceonline.com/europe-russia/2025/12/02/...
Picking and choosing US big tech in this context is pointless, they're all as much of a risk as each other. And don't come with "you have to start somewhere", because you do, but then the place to start is slowly step-by-step getting off of the most critical ones, which are the first four I mentioned.
https://european-alternatives.eu/category/cloud-computing-pl...
(1) Europe has a fragmented market; linguistically, product wise (2) Silicon Valley is in the United States (3) The United States has a very large amount of capital to throw at companies (4) even if you managed to succeed in the EU your shares will most likely be bought out from under you if you raised capital (5) all of the above re-inforce each other over time
Once you have that kind of an advantage it is very hard to lose it.
The truth is there's thousands if not tens of thousands of people on here for whom it is incredibly convenient to imagine their vests were granted in a completely different universe to the likes of Palantir. Deep down they know their companies realistically play an unfathomably bigger role in surveillance capatalism, crippling addictions, furthering of current US Party strongarming and a whole lot more. Exactly why many find it so cathartic to latch on to these threads and reinforce that cognitive dissonance.
I didn't even mention Meta who bring about as much harm in a day as Palantir wish it could do in a year - make no mistake, I'm not suggesting the latter is for a lack of trying. Although the idea that Zuck is somehow any more ethical than Thiel is of course hilarious.
But after all, you and me too are quite culpable in this moment, providing marketing and engagement for the platform behind Flock(YC S17). The exact source of all that data we're so angry about being loaded into the Palantir platforms.
I expect the author of the article must also recognize that Big Tech is in the same basket and are just as complicit for the sake of consistency. The problem is, we just don't hear about it often.
When I brought this up last time in [0] all I saw was constant hairsplitting, attempts to seperate Big Tech from Palantir and lots of 'whataboutism' accusations, which doesn't work because I agree.
So when I saw this in the article:
> Palantir’s tentacles are already extending into our communities. In my constituency of Coventry, the Labour-run council awarded the company a £500,000 contract to develop an AI tool for children’s services.
Google [1], Microsoft [2], Amazon [3] are no different and these are just a few of them and they are just as bad as Palantir and all of them are in the SNP 500 directly in the portfolios of pension funds.
So it is indeed a waste of time trying to picking and choose US tech companies on this.
[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46407683
[1] https://www.computerweekly.com/news/366634759/Google-wins-mu...
[2] https://www.digitalhealth.net/2023/06/nhs-signs-new-microsof...
[3] https://www.computerweekly.com/news/366566172/AWS-secures-89...
The big-4 would happily also do this. Deloitte, EY, KPMG and PwC Would take money to provide outlines and project management for an in-house, or an outsource to somebody other than Palantir. It wouldn't neccessarily be either cheaper, or faster, or for that matter any more socially acceptable.
I don't like the source, I could agree with the opinion (broken clock write 2x a day..) but to pretend government doesn't want what Palantir is selling is faux naieve and stupid.
What alternative is there, and why is "don't do it" viable?
This is "defund the police" wolf howling at the moon stuff.
https://www.jewishnews.co.uk/mps-mcdonnell-and-sultana-addre...
Sultana is also on record stating the grooming gangs were a racist smear (which is odd as there were multiple races involved)
> One can never control what others say or do at any public gathering but if actions take place that I disagree with, once this has been pointed out, it is right and important to explain one’s own position
Can you point to anything Sultana has said which you think is beyond the pale? - a direct quote rather than indirect smears. As gross as it was, the grooming gangs stuff has been used by the right wing press to smear the entire immigrant population. The vast majority of abuse happens by people the child knows. I think reporting which distorts that -is- a smear, no matter how incompetent, misguided or corrupt the police response to what went on in Rotherham and elsewhere.