ICE Releases RFI for User Tracking Tools(www.wired.com)

80 pointsby eoskx4 hours ago13 comments

wnevetsan hour ago
> I can’t afford healthcare or electricity, and ICE just abducted my neighbor. But at least I no longer have to see plaques that mention slavery when I visit national landmarks.
collinmcnulty2 hours ago
As a child, evil was giant walking nuclear robots and monologuing villains and the temptation of otherworldly power, but as an adult, this is evil’s most common form. Come sell out democracy and humanity for a few bucks.
- colechristensenan hour ago
  Turns out evil is childhood neglect on a below average person with enormous unearned resources. An ego easy to mold unleashed on us by people who wanted to push him to ruin us.
  And his followers near and far egging him on. A lightning rod for fear, stupidity, and a urge to fix a sense of inadequacy.
october8140an hour ago
I would encourage anyone working for companies that aid ICE to stop work and do everything you can as an employee. There is a real opportunity to do something. “I only worked for the company that provided cloud services” will be the new “I was just following orders.”
Is there a complete list? Palantir, Amazon, Salesforce, Microsoft.
eoskx42 minutes ago
This has now been flagged twice today when it has a legitimate tech/privacy angle. Unbelievable.
hntechbropseudan hour ago
Second day in a row seeing a post like, it will be censored in 3 2 1 ...
Can’t allow anything to get in the way of those yc startups seeking ICE contracts. The tech-bro elite need to make their $$$ assisting in hunting down modern day Anne Franks.
- netsharcan hour ago
  It's fascinating to learn how IBM, Hugo Boss, or BMW could've been involved with the Nazis, by watching the present day: Just look at how Zuck, Bezos, Google's CEO were at the front row of the Trump inauguration and surrendered before even a fight, because hey, "I need to deliver value to my stockholders!", or in the case of Zuck I think it's more "Gotta make sure I stay in the 3-commas-club!".
  Meanwhile there's a flagged to death comment about policing the border and illegal immigrants. Oh yeah, the 2 year old "illegal immigrant", he's out to take your job!
- slowhadokenan hour ago
  Well it’s weird because there are a 195 counties on the planet and they’re all, to one degree or another, negatively effected by illegal immigration because all countries require legal citizenship.
  - OKRainbowKidan hour ago
    Okay? What point are you trying to make?
    slowhadokenan hour ago
    I’m not making a point, a made an observation.
riffic20 minutes ago
resist this.
deadbabe2 hours ago
These tools will just be used to gather evidence for character assasination to justify future killings.
- steve-atx-7600an hour ago
  I don’t think so. I think the administration will just keep declaring that X is a terrorist that obviously brandished weapons/threated ICE and it will be parroted by Fox News. Done. And who will stop them? No one. Republican office holders’ reelection is more important.
  - pjc50an hour ago
    Yes, and: the propaganda machine will benefit from being able to automatically dig up the most "lib"-coded posts to use in their assertions that they were right to kill that person.
    I wonder if this will stay up on hn; the site is very against mass surveillance but anything involving ICE gets flag killed.
- eoskx2 hours ago
  Yep, I could totally see that at this point.
lifetimerubyistan hour ago
Justice for Alex Pretti.
Wake the fuck up America.
slowhadokenan hour ago
Correct me if I’m wrong but aren’t there 195 countries on the planet that all have legal and illegal immigrants?
Also please keep in mind I’m a life long liberal that voted for Ralph Nader and Bernie Sanders.
- defrostan hour ago
  Not so many with the masked unidentified death squads though, at least not in the G20.
  - slowhadoken39 minutes ago
    People want to know the identity of law enforcement to dox them. Police, federal agents, lawyers, and judges can be pressured by criminals and organized crime. That’s a thing, you know that right?
    lc9er3 minutes ago
    Then don’t be a cop, if you’re too scared. Law enforcement barely has any accountability as it is. Legit LEO do not hide their identity because they are accountable to the population they serve.
    fitblipper22 minutes ago
    That is far down the list of reasons someone might want to know who is performing actions against them with the backing of the federal government. Much higher on the list would be accountability if they do something wrong or to reference them in any follow up legal or administrative interactions they might have in the giant immigration system.
    How many judges hide their identity?
    slowhadoken3 minutes ago
    Doxxing is the first and most obvious reason. Federal agents aren’t directly subject to the public, their respective agencies and the President hold them accountable.
Refreeze52242 hours ago
Maybe this will finally wake up all the people working for, building, and and enabling ad-tech and surveillance capitalism. Probably not, but we can hope. You're not just an "engineer" for Facebook or Google at this point. You are enabling fascism.
- pastagean hour ago
  Fascism is a slippery slope, maybe a political maelstorm everyone can be made to love it. The "first they came" poem is also a reminder that this are easier to see in hindsight. I think the strange turn the US took on human rights after 9/11, the media started to not only paint other groups as bad guys that you should overcome with force. The idea that any means necessary was allowed for a small win by torture, hacking or control. This idea that your power can be used against anyone just with a small connection to one bad person
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_They_Came
Noaidi2 hours ago
So just curious when all your tech people are going to stage a worker strike against this fascist bullshit? What do you just wanna get a gold bar like Tim Cook did?
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detterl2 hours ago
Arresting and deporting people who have entered your country illegally is not fascism. Do people not want laws enforced? Do you not want borders?
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- dawnerdan hour ago
  It must be nice to live in such a delusional bubble that you’re so clueless to what’s going on.
- lifetimerubyist31 minutes ago
  What about 6 federal “agents” beating up and summarily executing someone who is just protesting them on a public street? Is that fascism?
  - detterl25 minutes ago
    Without even knowing what incident you're trying to sensationalise, I know that hasn't happened.
    nickthegreek18 minutes ago
    It happened today. Literally go to ANY news site.
    detterl9 minutes ago
    No it didn't. You have the option of not interfering with law enforcement trying to rid the country of the tens of millions of foreigners here illegally. You have the option of not pulling a gun on six armed guys trying to justifiably subdue you.
    Why do you empathise with these people? It's sick.