278 pointsby rvermeulen9815 days ago33 comments
  • rvermeulen9815 days ago
    I've been working on a LAN discovery tool with a Terminal User Interface (TUI) written entirely in Go. It's called Whosthere, and it's designed to help you explore devices on your local network without requiring elevated privileges.

    It works by combining several discovery methods:

    - mDNS and SSDP scanning

    - ARP cache reading (after triggering ARP resolution via TCP/UDP sweeps)

    - OUI lookups to identify device manufacturers

    It also includes:

    - A fast, keyboard-driven TUI (powered by tview)

    - An optional built-in port scanner

    - Daemon mode with a simple HTTP API to fetch devices

    - Configurable theming and behavior via a YAML config file

    Why I built it:

    Mainly to learn, I've been programming in Go for about a year now and wanted to combine learning Go with learning more about networking in one single project. I've always been a big fan of TUI applications like lazygit, k9s, and dive. And then the idea came to build a TUI application that shows devices on your LAN. I am by no means a networking expert, but it was fun to figure out how ARP works, and discovery protocols such as mDNS and SSDP.

    Example usage:

    ---

    # install via HomeBrew brew tap ramonvermeulen/whosthere brew install whosthere

    # or with go install go install github.com/ramonvermeulen/whosthere@latest

    # run as TUI whosthere

    # run as daemon whosthere daemon --port 8080

    ---

    I'd love to hear your feedback, if you have ideas for additional features or improvements that is highly appreciated! Current platform support is Linux and MacOS.

    • nickcw15 days ago
      Very nice tool :-)

      It would be great it it could show the reverse lookup of the IPs as on my LAN everything has a name and if it hasn't then it is probably an interloper!

    • N3802E15 days ago
      This looks great! I've been searching for something like this for ever.

      Some feedback of what I found on my network, as compared to some other scanners I've used.

      I've never seen anything that can beat Advanced IP Scanner at finding hostnames. I've never even found a way to get arp or nmap to get close to Advanced IP Scanner; I've tried dozens of suggested commands of each, all with no luck. Here's the results of my scans:

      Alive hosts: 309

      Unkown: 201

      With hostnames: 80

      https://www.advanced-ip-scanner.com/

      ####################################

      I also tried a program called Angry IP Scanner:

      Hosts scanned: 510

      Hosts alive: 315

      With hostnames: 75

      https://angryip.org/

      ####################################

      whosthere

      Devices: 318

      With hostnames: 54

    • genericacct15 days ago
      Installed on raspbian, works wonders, much better than the thing i vibecoded yesterday. One feature I'd like: recording new arrivals to a log with all the info so it can be used as a barebones IDS
    • alphax31415 days ago
      Looks great!! I had the same idea a few days ago and am so glad you posted this now! I will be using it and will let you know of any feedback. So far works great on my network!
    • M95D15 days ago
      Why the X11 dependency if it's a TUI? I was expecting ncurses.
      • bestham15 days ago
        It says in the read me that X11 is required for clipboard functionality.
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  • mmh000015 days ago
    There's a famous quote:

      Those who cannot remember nmap are condemned to remake it poorly
    
    Rootless nmap scan of a /24 in under 10 seconds:

      nmap -T5 -sn -PR --script broadcast-dns-service-discovery,broadcast-upnp-info 10.0.0.0/24
      …SNIP…
      Nmap done: 256 IP addresses (30 hosts up) scanned in 9.99 seconds
    
    https://nmap.org/book/toc.html
    • zbentley14 days ago
      I like nmap and use it often. The linked tool seems to be doing different or additional things vs nmap.

      What makes you think it’s not learning from/remembering nmap?

      • mmh000014 days ago
        That nmap command does the same thing as the author's command, except for the UI, for which there are dozens of nmap-uis available.
        • sally_glance14 days ago
          But you've got to admit that OPs tool does it quicker, except if you like to memorize flags or already have a script specifically for this. And it's much nicer on the eye than most (all?) nmap-guis out of the box.
          • andrewxdiamond14 days ago
            It does it quicker if you already have this tool installed. nmap is everywhere.
            • rvermeulen9814 days ago
              The goal has never been to create something that can replace nmap, the goal was to learn more about networking and about building TUIs in Go. Honestly I am quite overwhelmed by the amount of traction it got today, definitely not what I expected.

              I am very grateful for all the feedback and suggestions, and I will take my time to evaluate every comment. In the coming weeks I will try to implement most of the feedback and do releases to improve the tool further, thanks everyone!

    • gerdesj14 days ago
      LLDP and CDP would like a chat
  • 84634E1A607A15 days ago
    Overall good work. I'd request an `-i` command-line parameter to specify the interface to scan (and I'd prefer ALL params being able to be read from command line params). I think it just performs a full scan initially on my laptop, following scans either didn't success or didn't involve TCP connect scan (I don't see ARP requests after the initial scan).
    • rvermeulen9815 days ago
      That's correct. To avoid overloading the local network, the initial scan has a built-in safeguard:

      1. It only scans the subnet of the configured network interface.

      2. The scan is limited to a maximum size of a /16 subnet.

      3. It runs just once every 5 minutes (this interval should be made configurable, currently still hardcoded).

      If a subnet larger than /16 is configured, whosthere will log a warning and only scan the first /16 portion of that subnet. As of now the network interface itself is configured via the YAML file. I agree it would be a good idea to add command-line flags for more of these settings to make them easier to adjust.

  • yu3zhou414 days ago
    This is hilarious, 5 years ago I built a very similar cli tool based on the same idea and with the same name (whosthere but in Polish, ktotu [0]). I wonder if you used AI to generate the project and the idea

    Congrats for the execution, it looks more complete and feature rich and Go is a better choice for sure

    [0] https://github.com/jmaczan/ktotu

  • mrcaramelpants15 days ago
    Surely a missed opportunity to name it “whogoesthere”
    • adzm15 days ago
      I was thinking more along the lines of whodat
      • pinkmuffinere14 days ago
        When i saw the name I read it as "whost here", and was exceptionally confused.
      • cassianoleal13 days ago
        Or perhaps “New phone who dis?”
  • zahlman15 days ago
    Does the Go standard library have unusually good TUI support or something? Am I just imagining the pattern of new TUIs being written in Go?
    • cpuguy8315 days ago
      It compiles fast, starts up fast, and doesn't have a ton of hoops to jump through (ie borrower/checker in rust).
    • pstuart15 days ago
      No, it really doesn't have anything TUI focused in stdlib. I get the reason why but it would be cool if they had something foundational in golang.org/x/

      This project appears to be using github.com/rivo/tview which is is really solid.

    • jen2015 days ago
      The standard library doesn't have much for this, but Bubble Tea https://github.com/charmbracelet/bubbletea is behind many of the better Go TUIs. This one is using https://github.com/rivo/tview.
      • awesome_dude14 days ago
        Bubbletea has the unfortunate side effect of enforcing style/architecture on a project

        Much like cobra (or was it viper) did for CLI switches

        This is cool if that's what you like, but if you have your own thinking on layout/architecture then you're in for a world of pain.

        I use rivo/tview in my projects, and like it, but it's not without its "quirks"

      • pstuart15 days ago
        The charmbracelet folk are quite, um, charming, but when I tried to work with bubble tea on a multi pane project I found it unwieldy -- tview seemed much more straightforward.
      • fulafel14 days ago
        Bubbletea can spell Go, an encouraging indicator vs tview.
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  • jasonjmcghee15 days ago
    Big missed opportunity to call it “Whose LAN is it anyway?”
  • apitman15 days ago
    Have you tried it on Tailscale at all? Could be super useful but sadly TS doesn't support mDNS: https://github.com/tailscale/tailscale/issues/1013
  • gerdesj14 days ago
    Good skills - you are well on the way to Engineer with a capital E.

    You cannot see network traffic.

    You'd be amazed at how many people think they can diagnose a network fault without using tools like this. Everyone is an expert until they prove themselves to be a bit of a twit!

    At layer 1 you have electrical issues to deal with and that will need some hardware. Obviously you need to pick your network model too. Here you'll go in with a couple of PCs/laptops and APIPA and/or a Fluke or a cheap network tester effort off of Amazon. Use what you have available.

    After that you will need nmap and wireshark. LLDP and CDP are very handy too.

    If you have to deal with a large network, I can highly recommend Netdisco.

  • vzaliva15 days ago
    I am not a golang user. If I install as recommended via `go` command on Linux how do I make sure it is updated when new versions are released? I wish it has a .deb package..
    • zahlman15 days ago
      > I wish it has a .deb package..

      Generally speaking, the Debian package management system is really not a place I would look for prompt updates when new versions of software are released.

      • foresto15 days ago
        You might be confusing the .deb package format with the release cadence of the Debian Stable distribution.
      • mzajc15 days ago
        Why not? It works roughly the same as any other binary distribution format. Given that the project is written in go, it's also unlikely to have many dynamically linked dependencies.
    • sneak15 days ago
      “go install” does not have an update mechanism. I imagine most people using it would consider such an anti-feature; it is not a package manager.

      I certainly don’t want programs I “go install” to change underneath me without notice or review. That’s basically handing ownership of your computer to a remote developer.

      • esseph14 days ago
        > That's basically handling ownership of your computer to a remote developer.

        System / application package updates??

        • sneak14 days ago
          Compare the security resources of the median OS publisher with the median go package publisher.

          An OS update from Debian, Apple, or Microsoft is not the same thing as a new version tag on a random go CLI app made by one person (or even a team of people).

          Furthermore, while it is becoming much more common for OS package managers to autoupdate apps, it still isn’t the default state of affairs for most apps. OS updates are a different matter.

          In any case, even without these comparisons, handing RCE to 20 organizations/developers/publishers is worse than handing it to 1 or 2.

    • yobert15 days ago
      Just `git pull` and `go build` should work!
      • vzaliva13 days ago
        this does not scale if you have 20-30 small utilities installed on your system.
  • GeoffKnauth15 days ago
    Using brew, I got "Apple could not verify `whosthere' is free of malware that may harm your Mac or compromise your privacy." [Move to Trash] [Done]
    • cedws15 days ago
      It just means that the binary is not notarised. You can go into Privacy & Security to override.
    • sneak15 days ago
      Unsigned binaries on macOS have slowly but surely been marginalized more and more with scarier and scarier warnings and harder hoops to jump through. You can enable execution in the system settings “Privacy and Security” pane.

      I’m sure this has nothing to do with Apple’s subscription-based (and government ID requiring) developer program membership which is the only way to get such signatures.

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  • petcat15 days ago
    I love the resurgence of TUI apps, but I wonder what the definition of "modern TUI" means in these cases. Does it basically mean just not using curses?
    • Daviey15 days ago
      It means it has a dependency on X11.

        $ go install github.com/ramonvermeulen/whosthere@latest
        # golang.design/x/clipboard
        clipboard_linux.c:14:10: fatal error: X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory
          14 | #include <X11/Xlib.h>
             |          ^~~~~~~~~~~~
        compilation terminated.
      • fellerts15 days ago
        That has nothing to do with the UI framework. The X11 dependency comes as part of the clipboard integration (which I'd argue should be optional or even removed). Still, I wouldn't call it modern if Wayland is outright not supported.
        • rvermeulen9815 days ago
          I think this is only a problem when building from source, right? It is indeed because of the dependency on https://github.com/golang-design/clipboard.

          I hesitated a bit bringing in this feature. On one hand, I really like to have clipboard support, on the other hand, I don't like that it requires you to change from static to dynamic linking (and have the x11 dependency).

          Maybe I could write an install.sh script for installation that detects the OS and fetches the correct version/tarball from the Github release.

          • Daviey15 days ago
            That library isn't going to support Wayland any time soon, and requiring CGO isn't ideal IMO. See this bug, https://github.com/golang-design/clipboard/issues/6

            How about this PR? https://github.com/ramonvermeulen/whosthere/pull/29

            It switches to using github.com/dece2183/go-clipboard, which supports Mac, Windows, Linux (X11 + Wayland) and Android.

            • rvermeulen9815 days ago
              Thanks a lot for your contribution, this is something I will look into in the upcoming days. I totally agree that CGO isn't ideal, I had to make the build/release process also a lot more complicated purely for that clipboard requirement (see GHAs and the different goreleaser files).

              On the other hand, I also don't want whosthere to be depended on a fork that isn't maintained anymore. I will think about this trade-off, but I am also interested how others look at this problem.

        • ok12345615 days ago
          What's modern about Wayland?
      • petcat15 days ago
        Yikes, so it's a "TUI" app... that still requires a display server? So I can't run this TUI over SSH or a virtual terminal. Wondering what the point of a tui is that still requires a gui environment to run?
        • Daviey15 days ago
          Sorry, I was unhelpfully flippant. You totally can, and I don't want to distract from the great app that has been shared. This bug was just a compile time issue, which needed X libs to bake in clipboard support which is optional at runtime.
      • rvermeulen9814 days ago
        Just released version v0.2.1 eliminating the need for CGO, thanks for your contribution!
      • sigmonsays15 days ago
        this stopped me from go installing it too on nixos. I'm not gonna put the effort in to run it.

        There should be a build tag to disable clipboard, that'd be the easiest way around this.

        • Daviey15 days ago
          Same, I also had the same issue on NixOS :)
  • kapitanjakc15 days ago
    Good stuff, this saves me the trouble of going through router GUI. And remembering if it was 192.168.1.1 or 0.1 or what were the admin/root passwords.
  • adi_kurian14 days ago
    Looks great. Discovery.app is also useful if you’re mostly dealing with Apple / Bonjour-heavy networks. https://apps.apple.com/us/app/discovery-dns-sd-browser/id138...
  • pjmlp14 days ago
    Love how all these "modern" TUIs are basically replicating Turbo Vision, Clipper and curses.
  • Evidlo15 days ago
    I'm also working on a Go TUI tool. Any reason you went with tcell instead of charmbracelet ecosystem?
    • rvermeulen9815 days ago
      I started off using tview/tcell, and only later found out about bubbletea and the charmbracelet ecosystem. Then I didn't really find a solid reason to switch over to bubbletea. So far I really enjoyed the experience building the app with tview, the only real limitation I ran into was switching the theme at runtime, for which I had to build a custom mechanism.
  • Havoc15 days ago
    Busy building something similar with a view towards customising it for my LAN.

    Specifically it needs to pull additional detail out of proxmox servers and opnsense plus deduce where things are physically based on latency.

    Thats a whole lot easier if it doesn’t need to work universally & you can hardcode some assumptions

  • eqvinox14 days ago
    You forgot the most useful (and thus important) discovery tool of all:

      ping ff02::1%eth0
  • girishso15 days ago
    Great tool, only thing I miss is it doesn't show SAMBA names.
  • jarek8314 days ago
    Looks nice. I'd love to have a way to select anything on the screen or at least have a button to copy more info, like manufacturer name of a found device.
  • Anonbrit15 days ago
    It says 'Open ports: (None)' for all devices on my network, despite there being open ports on many of them (MacOS Tahoe 26.2 / installed via go)
    • rvermeulen9815 days ago
      It doesn't start port scanning by default, maybe this is a feature I can build in the future. When you are on the `detail` view of a device, you can press `p` and that will open a pop-up to perform the port scan. Also the list of ports that will be scanned is a default list of common ports, and can be configured via the configuration yaml.
      • 4728284715 days ago
        In that case maybe print something different for unscanned hosts than „Open ports: None“?

        Nice tool!

  • sneak15 days ago
    Love it! I already have some ideas for additional improvements, might jump in and contribute a PR or two.

    Great work.

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  • est15 days ago
    I hope browsers could support mDNS or SSDP. We need an Intranet browser!
  • coolius15 days ago
    this is great! i had to tweak the config file on macos because it was using some weird interface (utun4) instead of en0. otherwise awesome tool, i am definitely going to be using this more often.
    • rvermeulen9815 days ago
      Thanks, I am glad you like it! I couldn't find a Go API that just returns the OS "default" network interface, so struggled a bit with a correct implementation for that part.

      When reading some blog posts, I found often a solution where it sends out an UDP dial to for example 8.8.8.8:53 because you can then get the network interface back from the connection it's local address. As fallback I implemented to pick the first non-loopback interface that is up.

      Would be open to suggestions to do this in a better way!

      • fellerts15 days ago
        I think this package does exactly what you need: https://pkg.go.dev/github.com/google/gopacket/routing. Works on my machine (error handling left to the reader)

            router, _ := routing.New()
            iface, _, _, _ := router.Route(net.ParseIP("8.8.8.8"))
            fmt.Println(iface.Name)
        
        this prints my Ethernet interface as expected. It doesn't make any requests, it just figures out where to route a packet. I guess it interfaces with the OS routing table.
        • rvermeulen9815 days ago
          Thanks for sharing! This is definitely something I will look into, I am all in favor to simplify the current implementation of finding the "default" OS network interface.
          • contingencies15 days ago
            You'd better use the default route and not some random IP, particularly DNS IPs which people often meddle with.

              # IPv4 default route only
              uname
              Darwin$ route -n get 0.0.0.0 | grep interface | cut -d ':' -f2
              Linux$ route -nv  |grep ^0.0.0.0 | awk '{print $NF}'
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  • fulafel14 days ago
    Seems IPv4-only, which most LANs aren't since a good while.
    • SturgeonsLaw14 days ago
      You might be fortunate enough to work in forward-thinking workplaces, because I see very little IPv6 adoption outside of mobile. I work with a lot of small/medium business clients and pretty much all of them are still on some flavour of RFC1918 behind NAT
      • fulafel14 days ago
        Have a look at the traffic on your network with tcpdump, you might be surprised what's going on even if you don't have IPv6 internet connectivity.

        But yeah, bigcorp managed networks still often make do with v4 routing only. Besides mobile, homes and SOHO are more likely to have current internet access.

  • pimlottc14 days ago
    I read the title as "W host here"
  • dalton_zk14 days ago
    Great tool, I will test the tool
  • spacecadet14 days ago
    Neat! Others have pointed out nmap, but hey, a project may look similar at first but evolve into something entirely different. For a few years I have slowly worked on a network analysis tool. It started out as a way to learn a few concepts better, make a prettier TUI app, but has turned into a tool I use for work as needed. I have never shared it here, https://github.com/derekburgess/jaws
  • ryancnelson15 days ago
    is the only way to export the results "run in daemon mode and curl yourself"?
    • rvermeulen9814 days ago
      In the current version yes, never intended to build it as pure cli app. But if there is a lot of interest in this functionality this is something I can focus on in upcoming releases.
  • vivzkestrel14 days ago
    - can we get a radmin vpn that works on both mac and windows?
  • hk133715 days ago
    > Apple could not verify “whosthere” is free of malware that may harm your Mac or compromise your privacy.

    Couldn't run it on macOS Tahoe. I believe this requires me lowering the security to allow it, which is something I would rather not doing.

    • rawgreaze15 days ago
      This is basically how every custom app works on Mac. You have to go to Settings -> Security & Privacy and click "Allow whosthere"
      • rvermeulen9815 days ago
        Would it help to get it on the "official" homebrew, instead of a custom tap/cask? Might try to do an application for that somewhere in the upcoming weeks.
    • phubbard15 days ago
      this can be fixed by

      xattr -c `which whosthere`

    • wtetzner14 days ago
      It just means the app isn't signed.