42 pointsby zdw15 days ago6 comments
  • VerifiedReports15 days ago
    Autodesk can just die at this point.

    It's an anti-customer, anti-industry, anti-everyone succubus riding on tired legacy trash and incompetent court rulings that allow it (and other corporations) to steal from customers and creators of all kinds... even musicians.

    • rurban15 days ago
      That's why I took over the abandoned LibreDWG and revived it. The format must be freed. I was there since the 90ies.
      • VerifiedReports15 days ago
        I was there '90s-2000ish.

        Meanwhile, kudos to you for working on LibreDWG. I use FreeCAD quite a bit; do you think your work will be incorporated there?

        • rurban15 days ago
          They changed their license, so probably yes. But so far they don't support that many objects, so their old solution is good enough, still.
    • quickthrowman15 days ago
      Unfortunately, they have a monopoly on architectural, CAD, and BIM software with AutoCAD and Revit. You’re completely locked in with no choice, everyone uses it so you must also use it.

      Trimble isn’t far behind in the ‘shitty and expensive construction software’ market, but they aren’t as ingrained as Autodesk.

      I’m not familiar with Autodesk in other industries but I assume it’s just as bad as their AEC software offerings.

      • VerifiedReports15 days ago
        They're as bad as they can be; it's just that in others there's at least some competition.

        - former employee

  • KellyCriterion15 days ago
    20 years ago when I was in 3D graphics/rendering/gaming they were the absolute "must-have-tools" - is that still the case today?
    • thot_experiment14 days ago
      No, still used by some major studios for sure but the community energy is all behind Blender. Houdini is goated in the space, all the Autodesk art stuff is basically only used because of vendor lock in and inertia. Fusion360 is the gateway drug of choice for CAD still but there's headway being made in the foss community on that front (as mentioned in the article)
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  • garyclarke2715 days ago
    Autodesk is an evil rapacious company. Competition authorities should not have allowed them to buy Revit, to create a monopoly for Architecture software, enabling them to get away with charging outrageous prices to Architects, especially considering how poorly paid they are.
  • BoredPositron15 days ago
    It's Autodesk they would burn anything for more money.
  • Dig1t15 days ago
    Why does everyone seem to hate Autodesk?

    I’m new to hardware stuff but have been putting in a lot of time in fusion 360. It seems to work well on Mac and Windows and it’s free for me just starting out.

    I got a year subscription for $350, which was not a horrible price.

    I will say it is very weird to me that there isn’t an open source program with all the features that Autodesk has.

  • simianwords15 days ago
    Very emotional article. I keep seeing this trope but I wonder how people reconcile this: autodesk is enshittifying its product. Users are leaving. But also wall street likes it. But also Wall Street is this powerful institution that keeps making money.

    How does all this add up? Is Wall Street so stupid to encourage all products to enshittify thereby leading to their own loss of investments?

    • SilverBirch15 days ago
      It's quite a simple story, wall street likes companies that make profits - and by that I mean that they receive more in revenue than they spend. Now there's really a few ways of making more profits.

      You can invest (spend more) and hope that that investment yields more revenue down the line. This is bad. Wall street doesn't like this, because you're definitely making less profits now because you're investing money you could've given back in profits, you might make more in the future - but no guarantee. Risky! Wall street hates this!

      You can raise margins. This can be good. As long as demand is fairly inelastic this will pretty directly translate into profits. But you can only do this for so long, by definition you just always want to do this until you can't any more, so you've probably already pulled this lever as much as you can.

      You can cut costs. This is good. Wall street likes this. You definitely get more profits right now. It could impact your ongoing growth, but that's just maybe! You can be more efficient right? And even if it does impact your future growth that's not going to show up for years. So right now, you're more valuable!

    • e4015 days ago
      Wall Street are made up of people with incentives. The incentives drive the behavior and not some collective will.

      Wall Street will be the last to find out the emperor has no clothes. That is called a stock crash.

      • simianwords15 days ago
        a crash will hurt wall street too. if you believe incentives drive behaviour then believe that they don't want the crash.
        • joseda-hg15 days ago
          More directly, they don't care about the crash, because some of them either can profit from the crash or more generally are incentivized to think they should extract all value right up to the point of crashing and not a second less, because that is leaving money on the table

          I see it as an extension of the tragedy of commons, no individual wants to destroy the finite resource, but everyone exploiting it to exhaustion always will

        • e4015 days ago
          A crash is the result of collective behavior (greed). Individual behavior is driven by incentives.
    • rankdiff15 days ago
      Maybe they believe too much in — user hates the new feature before loving (and adapting to) it. Just like UI revamps.

      And, sometimes, they are right.

    • miohtama15 days ago
      It's vendor lock-in. Same for Microsoft, SAP, Oracle, etc.

      It would cost too much for customers to switch.

      • simianwords15 days ago
        the post doesn't say this though..
    • watwut15 days ago
      > autodesk is enshittifying its product. Users are leaving. But also wall street likes it. But also Wall Street is this powerful institution that keeps making money.

      Enshittication makes earnings go up. Not infinitely, but for long. Enshittication is not done for fun, it is done for shorter term profit and Wall Street is all about that. Eventually it will go down and Wall Street will desert the company, moving money into something else to enshittify it.