72 pointsby 0x54MUR4116 days ago6 comments
  • lovich16 days ago
    I wonder how many of the people in this thread complaining about foreign children also scream about how we need more kids ala Musk
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  • yongjik16 days ago
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    • khiemdn16 days ago
      I dont think ICE is going after the kid, The father probably left his kid behind when ICE was trying to detain him, and now we got this headline.
      • jonway15 days ago
        TFA says that ice approaches the kid and made him knock on his own door for them, so no, this doesn’t comport with the reporting here at all.
      • pacomerh15 days ago
        They took the kid, that already is horrible. This shouldn't have happened.
      • Tadpole918115 days ago
        If only there was some kind of way we could find out what happened. Maybe like, reading articles before participating in Nazi apologetics?

        > Liam Ramos, a preschooler, and his father were taken into custody while in their driveway... Liam and his father had just arrived home when they were detained... the father’s car was still running...

        > An agent had taken Liam out of the car, led the boy to his front door and directed him to knock on the door asking to be let in, “in order to see if anyone else was home – essentially using a five-year-old as bait”

        > Stenvik said another adult living in the home was outside during the encounter and had pleaded to take care of Liam so the boy could avoid detention, but was denied...

        > Marc Prokosch, an attorney representing the family, said the family had an active asylum case and shared paperwork showing the father and son had arrived to the US at a port of entry, meaning an official crossing point.

        > “The family did everything they were supposed to in accordance with how the rules have been set out,” he said. “They did not come here illegally. They are not criminals.” He said there was no order of deportation against them.

    • billy99k15 days ago
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      • mindslight15 days ago
        The country is heading towards a civil war because we've got a bunch of understandably angry people who rather than organizing to do anything constructive, choose instead to follow a hollow con artist telling them that capricious state-sanctioned violence against their fellow humans is good and righteous.

        Stop reading your government propaganda, touch grass (or snow), and get your head screwed on straight by reading the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights.

        • ratrace15 days ago
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          • mindslight15 days ago
            This is so utterly stupid, I don't even really know how to respond. If someone told you to drink poison #1, would you drink poison #2 instead just to spite them?

            Never mind that the cathedral's poison was so insidious precisely because it was bundled along with a bunch of actually-worthwhile ideals, responsible for our country's prosperity and leadership position in the world.

            But I guess people like you are just too infatuated with destructionist grievance politics and a false dichotomy of blue authoritarianism vs red authoritarianism to wake up to the actual reality of our individual liberties being completely destroyed. Just as long as it happens to "those people" first, amirite?

            It feels like I'm writing the same comments I was writing around 2014-2016, just to a different flavor of true believer.

            • ratrace15 days ago
              > Never mind that the cathedral's poison was so insidious precisely because it was bundled along with a bunch of actually-worthwhile ideals, responsible for our country's prosperity and leadership position in the world.

              America is big and powerful because it 1) has suffered only one catastrophic national event in its entire history (the Civil War), 2) has a huge abundance of natural resources and 3) managed to swoop in at the end of TWO different world wars back-to-back in order to cement itself as the party in the position to reap the most significant advantages. Not because it was universalist.

  • binterfoo16 days ago
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    • tapoxi16 days ago
      But they came here legally and were pending an asylum case.
      • alephnerd16 days ago
        OP doesn't care - notice how they didn't even try to somehow sanewash using immigration status. They also decided to use a throwaway because deep down they know that too.
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    • chimineycricket16 days ago
      Is this to say that law enforcement detaining children on their way home from school is a good thing?
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    • alephnerd16 days ago
      > Foriegners (sic) cannot simply come to America and enroll their children for free schooling in the US. Not only is it economically unsustainable but it is theft of resources from everyone who has built and contributed to the system previously

      My school district is shutting down schools because there aren't enough children anymore [0]. We're one of the best public school districts nationally. "Foreigners" clearly aren't eating up resources.

      Doesn't matter anyhow - those of us who can afford to live in rich school districts win either way.

      The culture war you are fighting is for plebs - those of us with money and network win either way.

      [0] - https://www.smdailyjournal.com/news/local/school-enrollment-...

  • msie16 days ago
    Combine dumb, unqualified people with a rigid command structure and this is what you get.
  • OGEnthusiast16 days ago
    It does seem irresponsible as a father to illegally cross a country’s border with your child in-tow and enroll them in the school system knowing that you are breaking the law. IMO it is a bit more forgivable as a young individual looking for work since if you get deported it’ll only be you.
    • beached_whale16 days ago
      From the article: "Marc Prokosch, an attorney representing the family, said the family had an active asylum case and shared paperwork showing the father and son had arrived to the US at a port of entry, meaning an official crossing point. The family did everything they were supposed to in accordance with how the rules have been set out,” he said. “They did not come here illegally. They are not criminals.” He said there was no order of deportation against them and he believes the father and son have remained together in detention."

      Sounds like they followed the rules and laws. Homeland Security calls everyone they detain illegal aliens but doesn't have to prove that either.

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