46 pointsby clowes8 hours ago19 comments
  • paulmooreparks7 hours ago
    This is well done. I can't say I agree with all of them, but I agree with the fact that you sat down and thought about them, and that you wrote them down. Good job.

    > Adults make a lot more sense when you realise they're just children in big bodies.

    That one, I absolutely agree with.

    I'm 55. I would have a hard time limiting myself to 55 things I wish I knew when I was 34. When I'm 105, I still will have too many for now. :)

  • theblazehen7 hours ago
    > If you're a man, one of your hardest battle may be not giving in to sexual urges that cause harm to others. History is littered with otherwise entirely brilliant men who succeeded at everything but this. You must succeed.

    I'm not sure I like the framing of this

    • xnx6 hours ago
      It is poorly worded, but might make sense if interpreted to be about cheating and not sexual assault.
      • elliotmy5 hours ago
        You're right, poorly worded. My initial draft of it had nuance that I think was lost when I condensed this entry down. But it was meant to largely cover cheating, as well as sexual assault, and any sexual acts that harm others.

        My original draft from Obsidian:

        "The smartest, most talented and otherwise kind men throughout history – who have overcome hurdles beyond imagining to save lives, get rich and get us the moon – still totally failed when it came to not giving in to their sexual desires. They cheated on the partners they love. Some even groped and raped.

        It’s not discussed enough, but many mens hardest battle is simply not giving into sexual appetites that cause harm – cheating, sexual assault, or any other form of harm (you could argue simply buying and consuming porn is immoral). These acts can spread misery through multiple generations. And yet many men do it. If you happen to have these urges (and it's not all men), you must not give in to them. [[2026-01-06]]"

    • 7 hours ago
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    • olivierestsage6 hours ago
      I definitely interpreted this one as meaning emotional harm.
    • eudamoniac2 hours ago
      I won't say most, but it's clear a lot of men are tempted by the flesh and have to actively choose not to cheat on their partner. This is a trope throughout cultures and histories for a reason. Some are lucky enough to find monogamy trivial and natural, but a lot of people are practicing self control.
    • Loughla7 hours ago
      Uh, yeah. I've been a man my entire life and I've never ever had a problem with wanting to let my sexual urges cause harm to others. I have a very high libido even. Not once has this been a problem.

      The fuck is this about?

      • elliotmy5 hours ago
        Sadly, rape and cheating on partners is far too rampant in the world, in my experience. But I never see any one talking about it – only the news articles and Facebook posts after the fact.

        I believe that far too many men are messed up and have desires of sexual harm and struggle to contain these desires – way more men than people think. I was attempting to call it out, but I may have done so clumsily, writing it as if every man struggles with it, or that it's a struggle I've had (when I haven't).

      • aipatselarom6 hours ago
        Same.

        Leaving aside the "If you're a man ..." condescending crap, that "cause harm to others" bit reveals a lot about the author.

        Sorry pal, you're alone on that hill.

        • K0balt5 hours ago
          Women also cause enormous turmoil and suffering through their indiscretions and poor choices. Men are hardly alone on that journey.
        • elliotmy5 hours ago
          I'm not sure. You've masterbated to porn (an industry with rampant abuse towards women), right? You're on the hill.
          • IAmBroom3 hours ago
            Fallacy of composition: Not every member of a set is guaranteed to share all attributes with the "bad apples" in the set. Not even if there are a lot of bad apples.
      • dwpdwpdwpdwpdwp6 hours ago
        Ask a divorce lawyer that question.
        • aipatselarom6 hours ago
          If you actually did that you'd know most domestic violence is from women towards men.

          But it doesn't transcend as men are usually way stronger and just brush it off.

          Hint: It's so prevalent it's even considered "funny".

          • notachatbot1235 hours ago
            Nope, that's not true.
            • K0balt5 hours ago
              If you mean, by reporting statistics, you’re probably right. But men in general are widely used to physical abuse and are expected to take it. Granted, it is rarely significantly harmful and women use it as a way to reassure themselves that men are “in charge “ or whatever, but that doesn’t change the fact that it is vile behavior.

              Men’s behavior is as much shaped by female expectations as the behavior of women is molded by men.

              Like it or not, we’re in this together, and cooperation with mutual understanding and benefit is the only way forward. We can see what happens when this breaks down, as in sharia law. How do you think this ends if we ceaselessly demonize men? Shame has its limits, and they start where the violence begins.

              • IAmBrooman hour ago
                Your assertion, which feels "right" to you, is by your own admission unprovable with available reporting facts.

                Give up that assertion. Violence in relationships can go both ways. Neither sex gets to "win" here.

      • dpkirchner6 hours ago
        I think this is where the "may" applies.
      • K0balt6 hours ago
        That was my first reaction as well. Maybe if we include letting others harm themselves or others by choosing poorly it makes more sense, but then it’s patronising to the opposite sex, like their agency is invalid.

        OTOH I can remember being a 16 year old sex crazed sociopath, maybe adolescence is what op refers to? I definitely participated is some extremely questionable decisions at that age, and sometimes I wonder if others were significantly affected by my ignorance and selfishness. Probably not, as they were also sex crazed sociopaths at the time, but still. Such a cringefest.

        Being ashamed of your past actions is how you know you are growing.

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  • kleiba7 hours ago
    Congrats, you're half way there to publish your first self-help book!
  • mbeavitt7 hours ago
    > Don't take criticism from someone you wouldn't take advice from.

    The funny thing I find about criticism is that you actually don’t have a choice about whether or not it affects your future actions. Criticism that I have dismissed has persistently come back to haunt me, perhaps via my subconscious.

  • imranq7 hours ago
    Some great life lessons here, but also some I don't agree with:

    - The lazy person works twice as hard. Often I found you can save a lot of time just trying to the minimal possible and gain a lot of insights of why something is minimal vs not

    -The opinion of the person who rarely offers it is listened to more closely. I found the opposite to be true, those who don't offer their thoughts frequently are often dismissed when they do want to share something

    Anyway, many of the points are great.. I would also add to keep a journal and write down what was meaningful throughout the day.. you will find time passing by with more quality since you know what the take and what to avoid

  • adzm7 hours ago
    The days are long, but the years are short
  • Esophagus46 hours ago
    > curiosity is a superpower

    I like this. I’ll take it a step further:

    curiosity plus follow-through is a superpower. Lots of people I know are curious… they just never really follow through on it, so they end up average, wasting that superpower. They’re curious in their head, but it stays in their head.

    I’m thinking about curiosity in a work sense (“could I build a better widget?”) and in a personal interest sense (“I wonder if taking a dance class / volunteering at a soup kitchen would be fulfilling”).

    I’ve learned that the people who tend to excel are the ones who follow that curiosity to completion for something.

  • comrade12347 hours ago
    35. Women can be as horny and lonely as men and all you need to do is talk to them to meet them.

    This was a revelation to me in my early-thirties.

    • akimbostrawman6 hours ago
      >This was a revelation to me in my early-thirties

      Have you considered that this had less to do with how you acted but more with your marked value increasing and there's decreasing?

      • blueflow6 hours ago
        Maybe its that the social norms around sex are that women do not enjoy it and men have to force it on them.

        The harm of that is that women feel shame for enjoying it and men feel shame for wanting it.

        The social norms are garbage, at some point in life you figure it out by experience...

  • Brajeshwar6 hours ago
  • silexiaan hour ago
    I'm 41. Here's 2 things I wish I knew at 34.

    Don't give garbage advice on the internet.

    Don't take garbage advice from a stranger you've never met.

    • elliotmy32 minutes ago
      Hi Mr Joel Gross. Author of the post here.

      You’ve mistaken dismissal for discernment. If you’d like to be useful rather than merely snide, quote the bit you object to and tell me what you think is wrong with it – I welcome critique.

      Also, I note your blog has multiple advice pages. For example: https://joelx.com/joels-personal-philosophy/

      I admire your commitment to self-refutation.

      • bigyabai12 minutes ago
        Save yourself an hour, don't scroll through the rest of their HN comments either. It's a wild ride, they earned a spot in my OPML collection of curious characters.
  • ap997 hours ago
    > Eating meat is quite clearly immoral. Unless it will be detrimental to your health, eat as little as possible.

    Carnivorous animals, are they immoral?

    • spicyusername7 hours ago
      One might argue the difference is that they are ignorant of the suffering caused by their behavior, and that the knowing and doing anyways is the moral problem, not just the doing.

      Alternately, one might argue the difference is that they have no alternative to inflicting suffering, and that having the option to reduce suffering and choosing to inflict it anyways is the moral problem, not just inflicting it.

      • K0balt6 hours ago
        I don’t think that mammals are, in general, ignorant of the character of harm, violence, and death. Animals even kill to end suffering. Life is short, brutal, and violent. We do what we can to make it less so.
      • jl67 hours ago
        That does track with those who are most stridently Good and Moral and Kind and Right having some glaring blind spots when it comes to understanding the consequences of their actions.
    • imjonse7 hours ago
      1) Animals do not (pretend to) have morals, unlike humans

      2) Carnivores do not have a choice of food, humans have great alternatives, being omnivores not carnivores.

    • roger_7 hours ago
      Appeal to nature.
    • throw44323454 hours ago
      That’s why we are humans, and they are animals.
    • cannonpr7 hours ago
      Morality is a human construct and applies to humans, arguments that try to argue morality on the basis of applying naturalistic arguments to humans do exist, but I don’t think they have much credence in modern moral frameworks ?
    • torginus7 hours ago
      I'm sure the concept of self-restraint exists in the animal kingdom among apex predators. Don't hunt too much or otherwise you will destroy your habitat.

      This applies to humans too, and not just in the context of eating meat.

      • direwolf206 hours ago
        It does not. One predator eats all the prey, because if he doesn't, the other predators will. The next year they all starve. This is a documented effect. No reference to geopolitics intended.
    • baal80spam7 hours ago
      Unless they are bugs, then it's not!
    • cies7 hours ago
      Can any animal be immoral to our standards?

      Rape culture among ducks?

      Or crows that attack a member of the flock that misbehaved to a minor of the flock? (this is one of the animals that seem to have their own morals).

      Anyway: humans should not project our sense of moral to animals.

      And humans are no carnivores. Most likely we're omnivores (like our close animal relatives the primates: and they prefer fruit over meat any day, just like human babies).

  • fao_7 hours ago
    > One day – probably somewhere between 28 and 38 – you'll wake up and just feel 'off'. A bit sore. A bit tired. That feeling will never leave you. Be grateful for your youth while you have it.

    This happened when I was 20. I don't know what else to say other than, it fucking sucks.

    • pards7 hours ago
      This represents a fork in the road that becomes apparent by your mid-40s.

      Those who ignore it will be overweight, unfit, and on daily meds. Those who change their lifestyle will not.

      The fix is:

      > Leading a healthy life is simple: sleep well, exercise three times a week, have an active social life, eat a variety of vegetables and whole foods, avoid sugar, processed foods, alcohol and drugs. That's 90%. Everything else is optimisation.

    • paulmooreparks7 hours ago
      I can honestly say that this happened to me, but the feeling did leave me. It required a massive change of lifestyle and the habits that went with it.
    • tosser00016 hours ago
      I wonder how true this really is if you make an reasonable effort to keep yourself in shape. It wasn't until I hit 60 that I felt unquestionably different, and even then it wasn't terrible.
      • fao_6 hours ago
        At the time I was walking about 4 miles every day for years both uphill and downhill. Around the same time as me waking up exhausted, the walks became harder and harder for no apparent reason until I eventually just couldn't do it anymore. No doctor I've met has been interested in diagnosing why, because "lol you just need to get fit".
  • 1277 hours ago
    Sex and violence intersect and interweave. It's not realistic to avoid any hurt.
    • actionfromafar7 hours ago
      Transportation and traffic injuries intersect and interweave.
      • 1277 hours ago
        Mating is where humans are still closest to nature. Traffic has rules. Love has none.
        • krapp7 hours ago
          And men wonder why women choose the bear...
          • kibbul46 hours ago
            We're well aware that it's some combination of antagonistic attention-seeking and suicidal naivety.
            • 6 hours ago
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          • direwolf206 hours ago
            As a hypothetical. In reality, men and women wonder why men and women choose the sociopath.
            • krapp6 hours ago
              In reality, you can predict a bear's behavior but you can never tell what a man will do to you given the chance. Maybe nothing. Maybe years of gaslighting, cruelty and violence because of mother issues. Maybe nothing and one day they just snap and shoot you and your entire family.

              And it isn't simply a matter of sociopathy, but a model of masculine behavior and culture that trains men to view women as a currency and an entitlement, and doesn't allow them healthy emotional expression and identity separate from sexual and material conquests. A bear is just operating by instinct. Men choose their abusive behaviors and society often enables them.

              • direwolf204 hours ago
                How do we know men and women don't just operate by instinct?

                Bears are smart. They can't design bearproof trash cans for national parks because the smartest bears are smarter than the dumbest national park visitors.

                • krapp3 hours ago
                  >How do we know men and women don't just operate by instinct?

                  Because we define "instinct" in a way that separates the behavior of animals from humans and we have evidence from both personal experience and observing the behavior of other higher primates that humans are capable of operating beyond their instincts, for instance by creating social and political abstractions which optimize for things other than survival and procreation. The existence of art, language, science, philosophy and law cannot be reduced to purely instinctual drives.

                  This is a profoundly uninteresting and juvenile line of argument which inevitably reduces to solipsism.

                  >Bears are smart. They can't design bearproof trash cans for national parks because the smartest bears are smarter than the dumbest national park visitors.

                  Humans split the atom, sequenced genomes and went to the moon. We can't design bearproof trash cans because those trash cans have to be usable by humans, which creates fundamental engineering weaknesses that animals can exploit, not because bears are smarter than humans.

                  • direwolf202 hours ago
                    Humans are known to come pre-wired to learn languages and to strive for social status (which explains art, politics, philosophy, law and so on) — what is that if not instincts?
  • downboots7 hours ago
    Everything has an end. Only the sausage has two.
  • moralestapia7 hours ago
    >If you're a man, one of your hardest battles may be not giving in to sexual urges that cause harm to others.

    What the ...

    • kibbul47 hours ago
      Author telling on himself here
      • elliotmy6 hours ago
        Hi there – author of the post here. I included this quite intentionally.

        I consider rape and sexual assault to be one of the worst things one human can do to another – just behind murder and torture. And yet society is littered with it. Ask any woman (and some men), she'll more than likely have a story. And it should be obvious: don't sexually hurt people! I _shouldn't_ need to include this in a simple list of rules for life. But sadly, I feel I do.

        I've noticed advice articles, personal development books, and "self-help" podcasts aimed largely at men never seem to address this simple fact: far too many men commit or have thoughts of sexual violence. This was true hundreds of years ago and it's still true now. These men are out there, amongst us. They're "good" in every other way – they're kind to strangers, they love their mother, they're great fathers to their kids (how many of the world's great men have an "allegations" section on their Wikipedia page for goodness sake?). And yet they give in to this disgusting, horrific lust that ends up ruining someone's life (and often their own).

        I purposefully included it in my list, because others don't. Because it appears to be something that more men struggle with than people realise.

        I don't care if it's taboo. If my post stops just one man acting on his evil desires and harming a woman, man, or child, it was worth it as far as I'm concerned, despite the controversy I've stirred up.

        Having said that, if what I wrote was clumsy, inconsiderate or implies I have similar desires – as you and theblazehen suggests – then I do apologise. I am NOT on the side of rapists.

        Edit: I probably should have mentioned that my advice was meant to also cover cheating on your partner as a form of "harm", as well as sexual assault. But maybe I was too vague.

        • kibbul45 hours ago
          Firstly, she ain't gonna let you hit...

          Secondly, nobody is going to read that and decide not to rape someone. Zero people are ever having their mind changed by what you wrote.

          Thirdly, and it's even more taboo but you really need to hear it: women lie. A lot. Claiming sexual assault is (wrongly) believed by many to be a complete escape from all accountability for whatever choices and behaviours they voluntarily engaged in. It's not. I know you're not a fool, please know that you have no moral obligation to believe such claims or enable their behaviour.

          The gendered language probably didn't help. You would have really riled up the crowd if you had specifically admonished women for infidelity, divorce, emotional abuse, financial deception, paternity fraud, etc.

        • theblazehen4 hours ago
          Appreciate your explainer, and agreed with you. The way it was written came off to me as "don't worry about the pain you cause others for their sake, avoid causing pain because it'll be bad for yourself"
        • aipatselarom6 hours ago
          The issue is not if it's a good/bad thing. We all know that.

          The issue is that is neither common nor a natural thing for men to "struggle not to rape someone" as much as you think it is. While your intentions might be good, and I do believe that, it reads like some sort of freudian slip.

          Imagine if someone wrote "hey guys, let's be honest, I don't really like this thing of urinating on your food before eating, can we just agree to stop doing that :)".

          You wouldn't think "oh what a sensible comment, finally someone has the balls to talk about it", no, you would just :O and think the guy is crazy ...

          • elliotmy6 hours ago
            Fair point. I can see the Freudian slip bit for sure.
          • archagonan hour ago
            Frankly, there are far too many men who have one foot in the “rape is OK” camp. (Framed as “you have to be forceful even if she’s reluctant,” “if she’s drunk or passed out it’s still OK,” “society owes me sex,” etc.) Just look at the insane popularity of Andrew Tate. I think it’s a salient point. (Is it a “natural thing”? That’s beyond my pay grade.

            See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_culture

            Anyway, I’d reframe the advice as “be (actual) friends with women and stay the fuck away from the manosphere.”

        • UncleMeat5 hours ago
          Rape culture is real. Sexual violence is common. Serious feminist liberation has to come with the total dismantling of rape culture.

          "Men who don't rape really do want to rape and just exert enormous self control over their intense desire to rape" is not the conclusion to draw from this. The fact that you seem to think that this is fairly universal to men tells us something about you that is worrying to many readers.

          I can assure you that it takes me zero self control to not rape or sexually abuse women and zero self control to not cheat on my wife.

          • elliotmyan hour ago
            Fair criticism on the framing. I meant it as: “If you ever feel tempted to do sexual things that would betray, coerce, or exploit someone – don’t. Remove yourself, get help if needed, and never make your urges someone else’s problem.”

            I absolutely don’t mean “men who don’t offend are merely restraining themselves from offending”. That framing is both inaccurate and unfair. Most men aren’t sitting on violent impulses; they simply don’t want to harm anyone.

            The point I was aiming for was narrower: sexual harm, cheating, and boundary-crossing still exist at scale, and some men *do* rationalise it (including sexual assault, coercion, entitlement, misuse of status, infidelity, etc.) The point was meant as a warning to take it seriously if you have these feelings, not a description of universal male psychology.

            That said, I accept the phrasing invited misreading. If I were rewriting it, I'd be more precise.

      • moralestapia7 hours ago
        Totally!

        There's this one guy that used to be a regular of tech events where I live. He was building some sort of crappy luma clone.

        Anyway, one day out of nowhere he posts on LinkedIn "PSA to girls, when at a conference, we are not reading your name tag, we are looking at your breasts[1]", and then some bizarre argumentation of how if we all used his app this would stop.

        He was trying to sound like an "ally". I'm not a girl and it even made me feel uncomfortable, yikes.

        1: He used that exact word, mega cringe.

  • Jamesbeam4 hours ago
    The best advise I ever got was this.

    https://youtu.be/sycgL3Qg_Ak?si=aDnxo-S6eYXJVheC&t=190

    Don’t listen to other people’s advice. Nobody knows what the hell they’re doing.

    Just do your own thing.

  • antisthenes4 hours ago
    I agree with most of these except 28.

    > Some people are profoundly broken – usually from life's harsh trials. Give yourself permission to remove them from your orbit. Their healing requires years of professional help, more than well-meaning friends and family can achieve.

    If you give up on those people and cut them out, you're pretty much condemning them to continuing being broken.

    This conflicts with the earlier advice of trying to be kind.

    Don't let them control you but don't cut them out. Give them some of your time and some kindness. You never know how much time a "profoundly broken" person has left.

    • blargthorwars4 hours ago
      It's definitely a balancing act. I have a friend with whom I try gently help him fix his spiraling life. That would let me help him if he's open to it. But for my own sanity and the health of my family, I can't make it a year-long repeated ask.
  • Madmallard7 hours ago
    "Eating meat is quite clearly immoral. Unless it will be detrimental to your health, eat as little as possible."

    lol

    • elliotmy6 hours ago
      Hi there – author of the post here. I eat meat – to my shame. Unless you're rearing your own livestock and giving them happy lives and a painless slaughter, I consider eating meat immoral. Aniamls bred for food are kept in awful conditions and killed usually in inhumane ways. I think it's tough to claim eating the results of the the mass livestock industry isn't anything other than supporting the torture of animals. Animals who have the ability to think and feel. It's simply wrong. I would even argue it's this centuries slavery, in that it's something future generations will look back on us in shock, unable to comprehend how we were okay with it all.
    • frizlab6 hours ago
      yeah wtf is he talking about?
  • formerly_proven7 hours ago
    > If you're a man, one of your hardest battle may be not giving in to sexual urges that cause harm to others. History is littered with otherwise entirely brilliant men who succeeded at everything but this.

    It really seems quite difficult for straight men to succeed at this.

    • kibbul47 hours ago
      Yes, as everyone knows, there is truly no less modest and respectful demographic in their sexual behaviour than those chaste homosexual men.
    • 8bitsrule7 hours ago
      History is much more littered with people who aren't getting any - for reasons - who try to solve that problem by criticizing those who are (without harm).
    • ap997 hours ago
      Or you know, any kind of men... or women.

      Think for yourself my friend. Don't just parrot what you hear.

    • akimbostrawman6 hours ago
      Any statistical facts about this? I have a few about other groups but I'm sure you won't like or accept those.