44 pointsby Volundr17 days ago4 comments
  • chiengineer17 days ago
    Total Funding: An additional $75 billion over four years, supplementing ICE's base budget.

    Enforcement & Deportation: Around $30 billion for arresting, detaining, and deporting immigrants, allowing for 10,000 new officers.

    Detention Facilities: $45 billion allocated for detention

    You can comment anything you want , you can say whatever you want, you can attempt to organize, you can hide in the shadows

    It wont matter when tanks and 45 brown people with body armor are taking kids and women at gun point claiming everyone is a terrorist

    But apparently taking about the truth hurts HN feelings

    So this will be flagged

    My comment will get downvoted for the hundreth time

    And the tanks are still on the way

    And theres nothing anyone can do about it mines well hand over the country now it will be a lot less bloody

    • garciasn17 days ago
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      • chiengineer17 days ago
        Ahhh the redirect that i was waiting for

        But zero mention of how the ice budget is 4x the entire marines

        • burnt-resistor16 days ago
          How else does a unitary executive unilaterally and quickly scale a nationwide, lawless, massive paramilitary gestapo with assault rifles, unmarked vehicles, ill-fitting body armor, and "guided missile warheads and explosive components" that's loyal to a specific person rather than the office or the country?

          In terms of complainants, there's likely a stochastic mix including but not limited to:

          - Negative attention-seeking behavior people who project their life dissatisfaction onto others with hostility and Schadenfreude

          - Poor, temporarily-embarrassed billionaire wantrepreneurs and middling upper-income people who have some misguided notation that their interests coincide with the regime's rather than realizing they vote against their own interests, are divided-and-conquered, and are carrying water for people who don't care about them

          - Limousine Democrats who pearl-clutch and gatekeep anytime anyone raises awareness that's inconvenient to their gilded tower status quo or is "too heated" to allow anyone to discuss so they treat people like children in advance with fascistic muzzling and censorship

          - People who benefit from techbroligarch extremism or are just crazy who hate [insert scapegoat(s)] and [insert other faction(s)]

          - Bots/socket puppet operators who craft actions to shift sentiment towards the regime and/or particular political/ideological goals

          Keep resisting and speaking truth to power, even when it's hard. Moral courage is exactly what is needed in this era because there are far too many cowards, crazies, and greedy people screwing up and screwing us.

  • austin-cheney17 days ago
    Let’s see them try it in Texas where castle doctrine is taken seriously and everyone is armed to the teeth. It won’t take many examples before they rethink their approach.

    Edit. Castle doctrine probably won’t apply.

    The memo says under general guidelines that officers and agents using a method called Form I-205 must “knock and announce” and that “in announcing, officers and agents must state their identity and purpose.”

    • PokedBear17 days ago
      The problem with people invoking and using the castle doctrine is that while they might be right to engage in self-defense in that situation, they also would very likely be dead at the end of the encounter.
      • toomuchtodo17 days ago
        Might be dead either way, you have jury nullification to rely on if self defense works.

        “They didn’t announce and I feared for my life.”

    • burnt-resistor17 days ago
      I just watched a case of, albeit local cops, shooting and killing someone under the guise of a "welfare check" where they didn't announce themselves and shot without giving the person's house they were invading a chance. They killed somebody in their own house without evidence, exigency (arguably), or reasonable suspicion. They caused someone to defend themselves and murdered them for protecting themselves when they weren't wanted.
      • austin-cheney16 days ago
        That sounds like the 2019 Fort Worth shooting.
    • zelda42017 days ago
      They are doing that all over San Antonio and Austin.
    • gamblor95617 days ago
      Castle doctrine would still apply. ICE doesn't have jurisdiction over citizens.
      • burnt-resistor16 days ago
        > Castle doctrine would still apply.

        > ICE doesn't have jurisdiction over citizens.

        None of this matters because of their lawless, masked, paramilitary gestapo tactics where they get away with using chemical weapons, murdering people in the street, and breaking & entering without judicial warrants. They are masked criminals acting extrajudicially including kidnapping and disappearances of US citizens and non-citizens, retaliatory arrests of people exercising Constitutionally-protected free speech, and conducting summary executions. Equal protection under the law is a distant, idealistic fantasy that has evaporated except to be used as justification for punitive punishment against anyone not a celebrity, rich, or law enforcement.

      • tim-tday16 days ago
        Good luck with that. I encourage you to try. 1) they’ll kill you 2) they’ll get on tv and call you a domestic terrorist 3) the people who kill you will never see an investigation let alone a conviction or punishment.

        Perhaps after the first dozen or so the courts will spring into action.

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        • etyhhgfff16 days ago
          Wait until they mess with a veteran. 1) they dont care and actually have a decent chance to win a shoot out 2) they dont care 3) they dont care
    • metalcrow17 days ago
      Why would castle doctrine not apply?
  • rpiguy17 days ago
    This also will end up in the courts and the Supreme Court has long taken the 4th amendment seriously. Conservatives included.

    I expect this to be struck down.

    • fzeroracer17 days ago
      I've stopped expecting anything from this Supreme Court, since it's clear they've also decided to cede power to the executive. The tariff decision is an easy slam dunk that they keep punting and it's clear that they don't want to involve themselves in anything that might have actual blow-back.
    • ceejayoz17 days ago
      Like they did with asset forefeiture, right? Right?