ICE says officers can forcibly enter homes without a judicial warrant(www.nbcnews.com)
19 pointsby Volundr2 hours ago4 comments
  • austin-cheney2 hours ago
    Let’s see them try it in Texas where castle doctrine is taken seriously and everyone is armed to the teeth. It won’t take many examples before they rethink their approach.

    Edit. Castle doctrine probably won’t apply.

    The memo says under general guidelines that officers and agents using a method called Form I-205 must “knock and announce” and that “in announcing, officers and agents must state their identity and purpose.”

    • PokedBearan hour ago
      The problem with people invoking and using the castle doctrine is that while they might be right to engage in self-defense in that situation, they also would very likely be dead at the end of the encounter.
    • zelda4202 hours ago
      They are doing that all over San Antonio and Austin.
    • burnt-resistor38 minutes ago
      I just watched a case of, albeit local cops, shooting and killing someone under the guise of a "welfare check" where they didn't announce themselves and shot without giving the person's house they were invading a chance. They killed somebody in their own house without evidence, exigency (arguably), or reasonable suspicion. They caused someone to defend themselves and murdered them for protecting themselves when they weren't wanted.
    • metalcrow2 hours ago
      Why would castle doctrine not apply?
    • gamblor956an hour ago
      Castle doctrine would still apply. ICE doesn't have jurisdiction over citizens.
  • rpiguy2 hours ago
    This also will end up in the courts and the Supreme Court has long taken the 4th amendment seriously. Conservatives included.

    I expect this to be struck down.

    • ceejayoz2 hours ago
      Like they did with asset forefeiture, right? Right?
    • fzeroraceran hour ago
      I've stopped expecting anything from this Supreme Court, since it's clear they've also decided to cede power to the executive. The tariff decision is an easy slam dunk that they keep punting and it's clear that they don't want to involve themselves in anything that might have actual blow-back.
  • chiengineer2 hours ago
    Total Funding: An additional $75 billion over four years, supplementing ICE's base budget.

    Enforcement & Deportation: Around $30 billion for arresting, detaining, and deporting immigrants, allowing for 10,000 new officers.

    Detention Facilities: $45 billion allocated for detention

    You can comment anything you want , you can say whatever you want, you can attempt to organize, you can hide in the shadows

    It wont matter when tanks and 45 brown people with body armor are taking kids and women at gun point claiming everyone is a terrorist

    But apparently taking about the truth hurts HN feelings

    So this will be flagged

    My comment will get downvoted for the hundreth time

    And the tanks are still on the way

    And theres nothing anyone can do about it mines well hand over the country now it will be a lot less bloody

    • garciasn2 hours ago
      You will be downvoted because your comment sounds like hallucinations from first-gen LLMs, not someone coherently stating their opinion about a highly charged topic.
      • chiengineeran hour ago
        Ahhh the redirect that i was waiting for

        But zero mention of how the ice budget is 4x the entire marines