Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time(github.com)
99 pointsby akyuu2 hours ago7 comments
  • leosanchezan hour ago
    > it's hard to believe that HN users would be tired of LLM-related news.

    Not hard to believe at all. While I don't flag any posts. I have no interest in LLM related content.

    I also actively use AI tools btw. It's just tiring seeing everything with AI suffix including monitors.

    • peterspath5 minutes ago
      I wish hacker news had filters, ... if LLM, AI, or other hyped tech... make it hidden
    • wincy21 minutes ago
      It’s tiring for me because it seems like everyone is just spitting mad about AI, and at every opportunity they breathlessly make sure to let us all know how useless AI is, and how they are indeed the one true programmer who has no need for such base and depraved additions to their workflow. There they are, standing (or maybe hunching over?) bold and proud, on the shores of Algorithmia where no LLM could despoil that one true paragon of software engineering, as if the Platonic forms themselves deigned to come out of the realm of legend merely to demonstrate to us mortals how software ought truly be written.

      Anyway, I think AI is pretty neat and use it every day.

    • kgwxd13 minutes ago
      AI, politics, and discussing how HN isn't what it used to be. That's all that's here now. HN isn't what it used to be.
    • reaperduceran hour ago
      tiring seeing everything with AI suffix

      Reminds me of when everything was e-something. Then i-something. Then net-something. Then my-something. Then cyber-something.

      You can tell the age of a tech product by which naming trend it attached to itself.

    • kotaKatan hour ago
      Looks like a majority of it’s all politics and LLMs. I think we’re all as a collective tired of both and want something ‘interesting’ for once to post.
      • JKCalhounan hour ago
        I get that. And if an LLM story disappears from the front page—oh well.

        I'll defend the political stories though. For me, all the other places out there that vend politics are truly awful. While a political post lingers briefly on the HN front page, I find I actually learn something from the comments. If there are shit-posts in the discussion, they are quickly "dead". More often though there are (seemingly) reasoned debates about the issues in the comments.

        I appreciate (what I am embarrassed to call) a more intellectual discussion on politics than I have been able to find anywhere else. (Embarrassed because I'm walking a fine line trying not to appear to cast the discussions as "elitist". Or maybe I am an elitist, who knows.)

        • blackcatsecan hour ago
          I always agree with a good-faith, well-reasoned political argument. And HN generally seems to have a much more educated base than most of the other stuff out there--but agreed with the other person that I think it's probably best to keep that content off of HN, unfortunately.
          • JKCalhoun38 minutes ago
            Please, point me to "Wonk News" then so I can get a reasoned discussion about what the hell is going on in the world.
            • pjc5014 minutes ago
              That used to be possible with a carefully curated Twitter feed, then a series of bad decisions made that impossible.

              It's no longer even the case that reason helps. Wonkery has got run over by mass emotion.

        • DangitBobbyan hour ago
          I feel the same way. I crave high quality political discussion about what's going on in the US and this is one of the few places I can get it. Most places just offer memes and hot takes.
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        • homeonthemtnan hour ago
          Nah, politics is a cancer that's infected everything. Let the addicts get their fix someplace else
          • JKCalhoun38 minutes ago
            "Let the addicts get their fix someplace else"

            Open to suggestions from anyone.

            • a-french-anon14 minutes ago
              Seeing the kind of discourse you get here, how about Reddit?
          • rune-devan hour ago
            Everything is political. Including ignoring politics.
            • homeonthemtn35 minutes ago
              Only if you make it political.
              • b40d-48b2-979e10 minutes ago
                This is coming across to me as "things I don't like are 'politics'" if I'm being honest.
              • hobs10 minutes ago
                Its a tired trope, but you are wrong. The haves and the have nots define everything about our society and Not Addressing The Situation is a very active choice, thus politics.
          • b40d-48b2-979ean hour ago
            Hand-waving everything as "politics" is not healthy. It's necessary for us to be able to make collective decisions on societal questions which is what "politics" are.
            • AznHisoka40 minutes ago
              I remembered when politics used to be called “current events”.
            • bavell26 minutes ago
              HN is the wrong forum for this.
              • hobs9 minutes ago
                The idea that hackers are non political is very silly and very unbacked up by evidence.
  • cj35 minutes ago
    Thank you Dang and team for your moderation efforts.

    You’ve done a remarkably good job maintaining the quality of the community - we appreciate you.

  • smusamashah22 minutes ago
    Somewhat related, I use this script to see which posts are new on frontpage. Also shows rank change but I don't look at that anymore. https://gist.github.com/SMUsamaShah/e7c9ed3936ba69e522f8cb38...
  • gerikson2 hours ago
    (2024)

    Previously: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39230513

    • ramb2an hour ago
      Reading that, I feel bad for dang.

      It sounds like HN relies on automated flamewar detection and not-immediately-moderated flagging and voting that doesn’t work that well for hot threads or poor user behavior.

      I’ve been visiting since the late 2000s and have felt for some time that HN was really ADHD in its topics in the frontpage and that things frequently are unfairly flagged or voted down.

      PG used to say something to the effect of “use humans to scale until you automate properly”; obviously the moderation needs human help.

      • adornKey24 minutes ago
        The question is if humans are any better.

        Usually mentioning anything about doing proper epidemiology (e.g. analysing COVID numbers), or anything modern about atmosphere physics and climate-modelling gets taken down everywhere within 24 hours - by humans.

        Mathematics and physics is something a lot of people don't like and really love to take down. Idiots censoring experts is a real problem. This place here has less idiots, but outnumbering experts with stupidity is something that works everywhere.

  • beardyw34 minutes ago
    "An Unfolding Scientific Revolution in Cosmology" seems to be uncontentious in itself but that it is on economicsfromthetopdown.com raises a question about why it is there at all. Also there seems to be little that is newsworthy in it.
    • AreShoesFeet0006 minutes ago
      And yet it’s an excellent article and shatters scientific dogmatism some what like Nietzsche took a big dump on c10y.
  • oriettaxx6 minutes ago
    uh, found several mines :)

    sometime I have the feeling having a username that ends with "xx" does not help much :)

  • matsemannan hour ago
    In the january archive [0] I can't find this flagged story [1]. Was it already fallen off when flag-killed? Or doesn't it catch these?

    So many important tech related debates lately being silenced by mass flagging. Luckily they remain in https://news.ycombinator.com/active

    (I feel like "everything" is now "political" and thus not wanted here. Since Musk for instance now is a political figure, one cannot discuss X even when not a partisan topic about X. Or when some guy does big swoops that affect tech world wide, it's also not possible to discuss here. And I miss it, because I think HN is full of great people and I would like your take on these events.)

    [0]: https://github.com/vitoplantamura/HackerNewsRemovals/blob/ma... [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46503199