11 pointsby subjektivation3 hours ago9 comments
  • johncoltrane3 hours ago
    I like HN when it is leans toward "a place for everyone to talk about tech". Not so much when it derails into "a place for technologists to talk about anything".
    • geremiiahan hour ago
      I like HN, when the contributors here are intellectually honest and of good character. I really don't like tech communities filled with amoral nerds.
    • subjektivation2 hours ago
      Paul Graham ruled Hacker News is for "anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity" tho
      • armchairhacker2 hours ago
        How does this gratify your intellectual curiosity?
        • subjektivation2 hours ago
          I live in Europe and it's interesting to see intellectuals from the US and around the word that are primarily in the tech sector and known to have a broad knowledge of the world debate this topic. Since this could turn out to be the most destructive action of the century so far, considering world economy and maybe also the influence of big tech in europe, i think that is quite valid.

          And moderators of big tech companies removing a political post from a front-page of an influential forum while it shows high interest, gratifies my intellectual curiosity even more!

          • armchairhacker2 hours ago
            But what to debate? Almost everyone agrees this is stupid, but nobody can do anything.

            It's a bit interesting to read the best steelmans, then read how even they're flawed. Apparently the US not only already has a military base on Greenland, but is allowed to build more; and Greenland's resources cost more to extract than they can be sold. It appears there really is no benefit except to anger, scare, and annoy people. What other knowledge or insight did you find?

    • BoredPositron3 hours ago
      It's the russia in the 90s timeline. "I don't care about politics." if it's not aligned with the politics I like.
      • nephihaha2 hours ago
        More like the American timeline i.e. "that's the other party I don't like." There is this continual suspicion that if you criticise one lot you must support the other, as if there are only two shows in town.
      • armchairhacker2 hours ago
        What's there to discuss about this? Who will it convince that the 1000 other things Trump has said and done hasn't?

        This isn't even more outrageous than other things Trump has said. It would be if he actually invades, but he won't...

    • 7bit3 hours ago
      I agree. But when moderation is lenient and everything is allowed, you can't randomly decide to pull the plug on specific topics within a genre that's allowed.
      • tardibear2 hours ago
        I don't know whether these stories are pulled by HN moderators or flagged by lots of users but there is more than one motive for pulling/flagging stories.

        One motive might be to avoid unproductive discussions - many of the comment threads on the Greenland story (which I voted up) were angry and very polarised.

  • 16594470912 hours ago
    It can be found on the 'active' page

    https://news.ycombinator.com/active

    The link to that page plus others can be found in the 'Lists' link in the footer

    https://news.ycombinator.com/lists

  • thinkingemotean hour ago
    Points vs comments. If there's lots of points on a story but only a few comments, it won't stick around. Or maybe its the other way around? (see below)

    There is an automated flame detection mechanism. Don't know how it works. probably some kind of count of downvoting of comments?

    Users manually flag.

    Most political stories are flame bait; the discussions are low quality.

    Most politics is off topic, but if a story has been discussed and this one has for almost a year, posting more about the same story with little change won't add much to the conversation.

    E.g. I commented about this story 10 (ten!) months ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43212206 and do not feel the need to share my thoughts each and every time the story comes up again, although I did 5 months ago. Maybe in 5 months time I will do so again but not every day!

    Users do not want to see the same story permanently on show for discussion - they want novelty.

    Users tend to not like: Emotions. Propaganda. Accusations of conspiracy. Less thoughtful and more thought terminating comments.

    ----

    You can find better and more answers by the site moderator @dang on why things slip off the front page by using the search box at the bottom of the page.

  • beardyw2 hours ago
    I get the impression that the front page algorithm likes upvotes but dislikes comments. Not sure if anyone knows?
  • zqna2 hours ago
    Yes, the engineers should not be discussing the purpose of the tools they are making. That makes the process much more efficient
  • utopiah3 hours ago
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  • throwawaysleep3 hours ago
    > Does YCombinator have any interest in this?

    https://x.com/garrytan

  • SilverElfin3 hours ago
    Weird that the story you linked disappeared, and I definitely would expect that post to stay around as you mentioned. I have noticed a lot of aggressive flagging of political stories, which is frustrating given that the political landscape right now is extremely volatile and has big implications for everyone and everything. All the typical tech stuff is less interesting at this time.

    As for YCombinator - not sure about them specifically but lots of tech billionaires are for invading Greenland or at least coercing them. Joe Lonsdale (Palantir co founder) recently said in an interview that he views it as frontier land (rather than someone else’s sovereign state). Probably the rare earth minerals would help investors involved in chips or AI.

    • N_Lens3 hours ago
      Proof that you don't need wisdom to be a billionaire - the rich would benefit much more from stable societies and stable global order, rather than willingly rolling the world into an era of chaos.
      • 7bit3 hours ago
        Covid and Trump pretty much showed that this is not true. Chaos helps the rich more than stability (what we had before)
        • nephihaha2 hours ago
          Lockdown rather than Covid. Covid was supposedly around for six months (or more) before all that began.