And for the record, I’m not afraid of ICE, never said I was. ICE is racially profiling people, arresting them without cause, and deporting them without due process. I happen to be white, so that doesn’t apply in my case. It’s also coincidentally the same reason I feel safe posting a comment like this online. Free speech is being chilled in communities that ice targets, and I feel responsibility to relay what I’m hearing.
ICE also just gunned down a US citizen in the street, and that should scare everyone.
That was no life threatening situation. If the officer had not shot, what would have happened? The woman would have left the scene while the officers already had the license plate information. So I am not sure what your take is here.
It is absolutely frightening that you lot can watch something so physically simple and somehow not understand what happened.
So you think the officer defended his life in this situation or that he thought he was? I don't think so and I think it's clearly visible that's not the case.
You are trying very hard to lie to yourself and believe it
The first one ordered her to leave, the next one told her to get out of her vehicle and reached into her vehicle without a warrent or justification.
Neither had any legal grounds for doing so, at least according to a civil rights lawyer who defended MAGA people deplatformed during the Biden administration.
Traffic enforcement is not within ICE's remit, particularly in this case when wide angle footage with long time frames show traffic passing both cars that are across a single lane.
> Now hitting the gas pedal and hitting an agent with your big fat SUV:
Perhaps avoid the false hyperbole.
> It's basically the same story: the left using anything it can to create martyrs
The "martyrs" are being created by the incompentance and over reach of ICE.
Obama authorized the bombing of American citizens.
Those who are authorized to commit violence tend to do so. That in itself is not really saying much.
Please correct me if I misunderstood the point you were trying to make.
If you're not afraid of that, you got your head in the sand.
Looking at the "journalist", I really don't understand what people say he uncovered. He showed up with a bunch of people and expected to enter a non-public facility with children to investigate and when he was denied entry, made huge claims about how over half of the state's funding is going to illegal Immigrants. I saw zero proof of anything in their "reporting" nor did I see anything credible in their approach. I fully support investigative reporting, but there's a bar that needs to be meet to be considered a journalist and rage content creators do not meet that bar.
If you want to link to specific videos that you feel do meet this bar, I'm happy to watch them, but as of now, I do not believe their reporting one bit.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/two-individuals-plead-guilty-...
I do believe that there's some fraud. I even believe there's a substantial dollar value of fraud going on. I do not believe that they uncovered 9 billion dollars in fraud visiting 5 Somali run daycare facilities and being denied entry into them with a camera crew and armed security.
It's not a coincidence that a winner of the Nobel Prize gifted his medal to the then Propaganda Minister Joseph Goebbels[1], exactly as María Corina Machado gifted her Nobel medal to Trump. History doesn't repeat itself, but it sure does rhyme. If you close your eyes to all these similarities, you're going to be in for a big surprise.
[1]https://www.nobelpeaceprize.org/press/press-releases/the-nob...
Obama did it the right way, didn't he? Obama's administration managed deportations effectively and humanely, prioritizing criminals and recent arrivals through programs like Secure Communities for over 3 million removals while upholding due process, minimizing community disruptions, and avoiding widespread violence or errors like wrong-country deportations.
Citation needed. Absolutely wild to claim to know the thoughts of a dead woman. Do you speak for the dead also?
Shills keep bring up Obama deportations. Obama's administration primarily followed the law, observed due process and habeas corpus, didn't send people to concentration camps in other countries, and didn't shoot mother's in the head and then call them terrorists.
It should be clear why the response is so different, there's no need to act naive
2. Killing her didn't make the officer safer, now he was being approached by an effectively driverless vehicle.
3. If you put yourself infront of the car for fuck all reason that is your fault, especially as a "LEO" you should know better, but I guess that is what you get when you employ power hungry people with 0 training.
So, not only not untrained, he is a trainer.
[0]: https://www.wired.com/story/ice-agent-jonathan-ross-renee-go...
Every trained professional I've communicated with in regard to this incident has effectively shaken their head and referred to it as a clown show of epic proportions, a textbook example of how not to engage with the public, an example of how authoritarian states deal with people they have no regard for.
Let's be honest, a great many US enforcement types come to firearms use with an any excuse approach coupled with an absence of ability to de-escalate situations. They act like walking cans of petrol looking for a tinder to throw themselves on.
Nobody, as far as I know, has any intention of hitting me with their car. Yet, for about a dozen simple reasons, if I'm crossing a walkway, driveway, or whatever with a car also trying to enter the road by driving through the area I'm walking, I often will walk behind the vehicle. People make mistakes. There are blind spots. Maybe they're having an emergency. Maybe they're intoxicated. Or maybe they do want to hit someone with their car.
It's just absurd to think this was appropriate behavior by a seasoned professional. It's not even the appropriate behavior for a reasonably developed child.
Your mind-reading abilities are malfunctioning. There's clear video evidence which disproves your claim. That raises serious questions about your good faith in this discussion.
> keeping the United States safe
From who exactly? Perhaps we could have a foreign country perform an operation to remove the people directing ICE to behave like an occupying force attempting to frighten US citizens into submission. That would help keep the country safe for democracy.
Do you think democracy in the US is worth preserving? Because it sure doesn't seem that way.
> For the other comment, you can check yourself if you don't believe in fraud.
This is a completely irrelevant distraction that just adds to the impression of bad faith from you.
The Justice department is literally arguing that free speech is enough to impede an investigation.
This will surely be shot down in court, but this is just all noise to try to interfere in MN's midterm elections.
How sad is it to see the US position as a leader building alliances completely fall apart under the current administration? Pretty heartbreaking. The news today about sums up the disappointment.
"Prime Minister Mark Carney, speaking to reporters in Beijing on Friday after making a preliminary deal with China on a range of issues, said Canada’s relationship with the U.S. is 'more multi-faceted' and much deeper than Canada's relationship with China — but noted that ties with China have become more predictable in recent months."
https://ici.radio-canada.ca/rci/en/news/2221259/carney-reach...
Hopefully this gets thrown out fast, like 70% of what these nasty vipers do.
why do people keep giving terrible answers to questions they must not know the answer to?
We know they do. Numerous people have stated outright that they flag every thread they consider political, because they consider all political content to be off topic, and that they intend to continue doing so. And Hacker News is designed so that it only takes a few flags to apply to a thread.
But since you know seem to better, do please enlighten us all on the real answer.
Pure projection, 100% of the time.
> Trump Is Weaponizing the DOJ Just Like He Accused Democrats of Doing
> Throughout the 2024 presidential campaign season, Donald Trump accused his Democratic opponents—President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris—of using the levers of power against him.
> "The Biden regime's weaponization of our system of justice is straight out of the Stalinist Russia horror show," he told rallygoers in March 2023 after being indicted in Manhattan for violating election law. In a September 2024 debate against Harris, Trump even blamed Democrats' rhetoric for the assassination attempt he survived weeks earlier, saying "I probably took a bullet to the head because of the things that they say about me."
> But now that Trump is firmly ensconced back in office, his administration seems to have no interest in stopping government weaponization. Rather, it seems keen to wield that power for itself. Looking back now on Trump's complaints, it appears less that he was upset than that he was jealous.
Just for the record. 34 felony convictions and adjudicated rape.
[0] https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-weaponizing-doj-just-accuse...
Just record his actions. Persecute him to the fullest extent of the law. Ignore everything he says.
He’s a broken person, the dictionary definition of a bully, and whose modus operandi is to inflict as much pain on his enemies as possible.
Only Trump deserves to be president.