https://www.thedailybeast.com/personal-details-of-thousands-...
But we're already living in a world where US Senators and Supreme Court Justices have had to have security provided because of death threats from both sides of the aisle. We don't need to be encouraging vigilantes. No side is so noble that people can't do evil in its name.
But let’s be clear, it’s not a few bad apples. ICE by design is operating outside the law.
The videos are endless, people outside their homes on a walk questioned and threatened with arrest if they do not produce ID, face scanned and so on:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Minneapolis/comments/1qbawlr/minnea...
They’ve blocked off whole neighborhoods going door to door questioning people.
Let alone the videos of drive by pepper spray, drawing their weapons on people, shoving people to the ground…
These aren’t one off events. This is everyday in Minneapolis.
https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/01/13/ice-using-private-d...
I'd settle for the middle-ground law enforcement can't wear masks and cover their agency/badge number (or use fake plates)
Extreme powers has to come with extreme responsibility, they are heavily armed and also using their cars to ram people on purpose, they don't have to follow rules because they know no-one knows who they are
By analogy: No amount of polite words will make Russia leave Ukraine. Killing every Russian in Ukraine probably won't do it either. And precise targeting of just the drone sources in Russia isn't feasible.
Blowing to smithereens Russian fuel depots inside their cities? That will negatively impact, probably even kill, innocent Russian citizens. So, definitely a kind of "wrong"... that is necessary to end the war.
We learn from history. These people don't get to terrorize our communities without pushback; no amount of finger-wagging will change this. (To be clear, I do not advocate violence, death threats, etc. But their little cosplay masks will not protect their anonymity. Let their friends and neighbors find out who they really are -- maybe they will feel shame for once.)
When the policing and justice system fails the people, mob rule is (sadly, imperfectly, but obviously) the only means of redress.
Successful, prolonged mob rule is called "revolution", and considered completely legitimate, ironically.
Which led them to eventually refuse to continue oppressing their people for money, the revolution, independance, all that.
I kinda see connections, don't you ?
One definition:
"Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian political ideology centered on a powerful dictator, extreme nationalism, and the nation's interests above the individual, suppressing opposition through force, propaganda, and control over society, business, and labor, often promoting militarism and a strong, unified national identity."
Note that "citizens doxxing government actors" is not in any way an ingredient of fascism.
Does this mean you imagine them beyond the law?
You cannot give anything to fascists, we know what they do, history is there, they didn't change, they're doing exactly the same thing.
Regardless of what your feelings on ICE enforcement are...
Let’s try your comment in 1938 Germany. Replace the word ICE with Gestapo.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/13/trump-admini...
from a federal government agency heavily armed against unarmed non-violent protestors
absolutely terrifying but that's the point I guess?
There's zero consequences (yet) because the federal government monopolized the evidence and refused to do either allow state authorities access or conduct a real investigation themselves despite clear indications that it was not a justified shoot, resulting in the resignation of several prosecutors in the division that would have handled such a misconduct case.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/federal-prosecutors-resign-min...
Or else, just try applying a bit of empathy.
In the la-and of the free, and the ho-ome of the brave.
And if you're an honest to god American saying she deserved to be shot and murdered by LEOs because she was in wrong place is the most non-American shit I've heard. It's blatently shitting on our constitutional rights.
I’m sorry this leak makes you feel a certain way, but see the above.
The whole freedom-fighting hacker thing came about later, mostly from the 2600 and BBS crowd as a self-aggrandizement despite all of the laws that they were breaking: mainly related to use of telephone lines, wire & mail fraud, drug use/trafficing and age of consent violations.
You're literally trying to tell me about my own tribe and you don't have the slightest clue.
obviously, you’re free to use whatever words you like, but your clinging to outdated terminology and being perpetually misunderstood is not a failure of other people.
Words have meaning.
Also my usage very much matches early "computer hackers" in a cultural sense. If I was just going off of the word origin itself we'd be talking about horse and carriage drivers...
If I said "prototypical automobile", I can only really be talking about a Ford Model T. I couldn't be talking about a 60s Mustang, no matter their popularity/familiarity.
"denoting the first, original, or typical form of something".
An example: "the phone emerged as the prototypical example of point-to-point communication".
The usage of "prototypical hacker" by tastyface above fits neatly in the "typical form", while you're using the "original form".