Nate the Lawyer breaks down the ICE shooting footage in detail [video](www.youtube.com)
19 pointsby zahlman25 days ago4 comments
  • zahlman25 days ago
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  • ponkelimp25 days ago
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    • mickle0025 days ago
      horrible take
      • 25 days ago
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  • tim-tday25 days ago
    The driver ran her car into an officer hitting him. Anyone who’s played gta knows a car is a deadly weapon. Pretty sure the officer was justified in using deadly force.
    • Quarondeau25 days ago
      He shot while only being a few feet away from the car, which had already started to drive off.

      Why would a trained officer believe that shooting at the driver from only a few feet away would have a higher chance of improving his chances against being hit by the car (which was already well in motion), than trying to physically move out of its way? That makes no sense.

      • zahlman24 days ago
        All of this happened in a split second. As explained in TFA, the relevant legal standards do not require the application of hindsight or sober second thought. They are only concerned with what a reasonable person would do in the circumstances, with the information available in the moment. Training does not and cannot possibly prevent instinctive actions that appear irrational or ineffective after the fact.
        • Quarondeau24 days ago
          Wouldn't the proverbial reasonable person jump out of the way of a vehicle that's already nearly on the verge of colliding with them? Pulling out a gun seems to be the less instinctual thing to do in such a situation.

          I also wonder if they'll ever find out who screamed "F*ing B*tch" at her in that moment.

        • empath7524 days ago
          How does that boot taste.
    • clipsy25 days ago
      > The driver ran her car into an officer hitting him

      No amount of repeating this will make it true.

    • treetalker25 days ago
      Let's all remember that as we make right or left turns while pedestrians are still in the crosswalk.

      Query: If someone is driving a car around pedestrians, and someone shoots the driver in the head, what happens to the car?

    • grepex25 days ago
      100% justified. We can Monday night quarterback it all day, but ultimately it comes down to having to make split second decisions based on training and experience. Many officers would have jumped out of the way, many would have taken the shot. There is no one size fits all.
    • computerthings25 days ago
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    • billy99k25 days ago
      Even if the person didn't intend on running the officer over, it's reasonable to assume that the officer felt their life was in danger. The person in question was also already committing a crime by continuing to block federal government operations.

      Anything that happens while you are in the process of committing a crime is mostly on you.

  • DivingForGold25 days ago
    It is reported that the ICE agent who fired the deadly shots already experienced a harrowing situation with a car . . . He was seriously injured last summer when he was dragged by the vehicle of a fleeing suspect whom he shot with a stun gun.

    Apparently the driver rolled up the driver's side window on his arm and dragged him.

    • lawn25 days ago
      So you're saying he wasn't qualified to be there in the first place?

      That's true, but it doesn't exonerate him.

    • John2383225 days ago
      None of that matters.
    • computerthings24 days ago
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