62 pointsby akshayy2a20 hours ago7 comments
  • danhau15 hours ago
    Apparently the preceding issue [1] on macOS of an out-of-date certificate wasn’t enough to drive away customers.

    Plug-and-play peripherals relying on proprietary software was a mistake.

    [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46548201

    • treesknees14 hours ago
      This isn’t a separate issue, this is a Reddit post from 3 days ago _during_ the certificate outage.
  • enigma10115 hours ago
    What in the flying F have we gotten ourselves into
  • dghlsakjg13 hours ago
    I have the same mouse. The mouse doesn’t “stop working”. The mouse stops being able to use certain proprietary features enabled by the companion software, and downgrades to a normal working mouse. Logitech have already fixed the software issue, so this is doubly deceptive. Yes, it sucks that you can’t use certain custom buttons, but the mouse functionality never went away.
    • millzlane12 hours ago
      How much it sucks depends on why you bought it. if you bought it to control a pointer, NBD. If you got it for the custom buttons, then it's a pretty big deal. Why those features need a server online to work is beyond me. Glad they got a fix though.
      • dghlsakjg12 hours ago
        They don’t need a server. The post is also wrong in that way.

        The certificates for signing the macOS app expired. Because of that the patch needs to be manually installed instead of auto updating itself.

        Things go wrong sometimes. This is mostly people catastrophising things on the internet for points.

      • justsomehnguy11 hours ago
        > Why those features need a server online to work is beyond me

        They rewrite the functions on the fly. I.e. if Mouse4 is "navigation back" by default and you "set" it in the software to "Keyboard button A" then the software running on your computer (not the mouse) rewrites "navigation back" to "keyboard button A" on the go.

        It's so bad what if you CPU is hogged then sometimes you would occasionally get the "real" button function (ie navigation back) instead of the "reprogrammed" one. Or sometimes - both.

        It's utter bullshit of the design and the reason I threw that shit in the wall on day 2 and went to the store to buy Razer DeathAdder V2 HyperSpeed (R)(TM). Despite the ridiculous name and quite shitty application - most of the functions are actually stored on the mouse (besides some macro things, which is a pity, but again...).

        Oh, by the way, the software I installed on my notebook to "program" that Logishit kept working, downloading updates, updating and not deleting the previous versions. I suddenly got "low disk space warning" and was like... what? And then I found this Logishit spent 20GBs of space for it. For doing nothing. Literally nothing.

        But what is really puzzling is why @dghlsakjg is defending Logitech here. Maybe he has their stock or have some form of so called Stockholm syndrome.

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  • netsharc7 hours ago
    Reminds me of this https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/451352/mac-wont-bo...

    TL; DR: User changed the year on his Mac to 2122, it threw a lot of errors because certificates have expired, he rebooted and ended up in a reboot loop.

  • ChrisArchitect5 hours ago
    [dupe]

    3 days ago post.

    Discussion amongst numerous submissions:

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46548201

  • unstatusthequo6 hours ago
    I encountered this issue this week. Went to Logitech website, downloaded patch, installed. Round trip less than 2 minutes. Really not a big deal .
  • lapcat13 hours ago
    1) The submission title has been editorialized, contrary to the HN guidelines. The actual title of the Reddit post is "Logi+ Options is down!!"

    2) The submission title is false. It was not a server issue but rather a native software issue.

    • justsomehnguy11 hours ago
      3) I really don't care if this is 'remote server' or 'native software' issue if I can't use the product I bought this my own money.
      • lapcat10 hours ago
        How is this reply relevant to my comment? What you care about is irrelevant to whether the HN submission title is accurate.

        I'm not employed by Logitech, so I'm not here to handle your customer service complaints. In any case, Logitech has already released a fix, so I suggest that you contact them if you're still experiencing the problem.