6 pointsby onesandofgrain19 hours ago4 comments
  • password5432116 hours ago
    If you click on most profiles that comment they are at least a few years old, so probably not. But there may be an astroturfing problem.

    From observation, Twitter seems to have the worst bot:person ratio. Reddit feels like it has more bots then ever as well now with a lot of accounts either being fresh or getting suspended. YouTube, I don't even look at comments but probably garbage.

  • michelsedgh19 hours ago
    I certainly feel a lot of the comments are bots. especially if the post goes to front page
    • onesandofgrain19 hours ago
      I do so as well, especially if there is any discussion of AI models. If it's Claude someone says how Qwen is better, if it's Codex, someone says Claude is better, if it's Gemini someone says OpenAI is better. I get it, it's all a battle of the most users as more users=more finetuning, but goodness lord. Everything is one overfitted mess and I can't bear read the comments anymore. Shill after shill
    • saidnooneever19 hours ago
      do you think they are really bots / automated or might it be that due to growing user-base quality might level down towards a more general internet platform quality? (i have no idea how to distinguish the two without logs / metrics so i have no clue, just a thought)
      • michelsedgh19 hours ago
        i dont think its general internet platform quality, especially on political stuff hacker news feels more like bluesky rather than X thats why i feel like its bots just commenting not real humans. ofc theres no metric, just how i feel. and humans like if ur comment has basic common sense in it, it gets down voted haard
  • bediger400019 hours ago
    I don't think there's a bot problem, but I do think there's a few voting rings.
    • onesandofgrain19 hours ago
      The voting I don't mind, but the comments, they reek AI-slop, all the top ones, almost always on all AI model posts.
  • MisterTea19 hours ago
    About a month ago I flagged an AI slop article that had three green accounts posting nonsense comments like "great article!" within one minute of posting. Clearly sock puppets. Few hours later it was completely removed by mods.

    So yeah, it exists but to what degree?

    • onesandofgrain19 hours ago
      This last week man... the amount of Gemini,Codex,Claude-shilling has been through the f* roof. Literally everyday someone is talking about how "mystically good" Claude is, how Claude is different. Wow Claude, wow codex and gemini, never going back to Qwen blabla. It's nauseating I should probably take a Meclizine to deal with it,
      • MisterTea18 hours ago
        How did you verify these posts were from legit bots? Can you share an example?

        I say that because I believe there are a lot of devs who really want that stuff to be true. They want to be able to perform better, they want to do less "boring work" so they can move on to bigger things and so on. And just like a person can be a fan of a sports team, a form of brand loyalty, I can certainly see people forming the same relationships with AI brands for $REASON. I don't doubt AI brand fans exist. Humans get sentimental and attached to things. Especially things that they perceive as having helped them.

        • onesandofgrain17 hours ago
          How I verified, I didn't verify nothing, this is just a gut feeling . Ai are tools, getting into a personal relationship with them is ridiculous. No point in shilling them
          • MisterTea15 hours ago
            > Ai are tools, getting into a personal relationship with them is ridiculous. No point in shilling them

            Well you have people who work in vocational jobs who develop brand loyalties to tools such as John Deere, Caterpillar, Snap On, and so on. These companies sell branded merchandise such as apparel and other trinkets to promote the brand via their fans. Visit a vocational forum and you will see how people can be rabid tool brand fanatics, smack talking each others favorite tool brands.

            I do believe there is AI shilling for sure. But I also believe there are people who really want AI to level the playing field for them so they too can be/feel like a 10x engineer or whatever. They invest themselves in the technology using a branded product which they can form an emotional attachment (e.g. Claude helped me feed my family. Thanks Claude!) So you get these gushy posts that feel like shilling but might be an emotional outburst of support for their favorite brand.